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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Any idea for oddball 55-75g?

I want a predator or atleast something out of the ordinary (of course) but my requirements are:
-active
-bigger than 7inch (unless its an awesome gulper cat <3)
-Predator prefered but will abset omnivores or herbivores
-Just a species tank only (meaning Iam only going to have one fish)

Here are my likes (you can make other suggestions outside my likes I just want to find the best suited fish for my style)
-I like smooth skinned fish (unless its a round bodied fish<3)
-I like round boddied fish with girth to it
-Fish with larger mouths
-Smart enough to recognize whose the feeder (me) and beg for food
-Pretty active
-Doesnt mind bright lights that much(of course vegetation on top will difuse the light)
-Larger than 5inch
-freshwater is a must

Pretty much anything amuses me but that amuses me the most I like gulper cats but their extremely expensive a whopping 500$ so I am trying to look fo rfish under 100$
This will be set for either a 55g or a 75g Id like to know all the fish that can go in that <3
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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my LFS has a sweet freshwater stingray...don't know much about it but it seems active and may be a good option. Next time I go there I'll try to get the species name for you. I've admired it but it was definitely too big for my 29 gallon. It's very active though.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
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my lfs has a sweet freshwater stingray...don't know much about it but it seems active and may be a good option. Next time I go there I'll try to get the species name for you. I've admired it but it was definitely too big for my 29 gallon. It's very active though.
Even the smallest Rays get 20" across. They needs LARGE shallow tanks.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Even the smallest Rays get 20" across. They needs LARGE shallow tanks.
Agreed I looked on them they need minimum of 120gals
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Here's a site with a lot of oddballs, but just use it for pics. They're info isn't the greatest.

http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Amphibia...rarium%20I.htm
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Even the smallest Rays get 20" across. They needs LARGE shallow tanks.
O: also they need special diet
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Most Oddball fish need a special diet.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Here's a site with a lot of oddballs, but just use it for pics. They're info isn't the greatest.

http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Amphibia...rarium%20I.htm
I like the rope fish, lungfish, gars, knife, bichirs, arrowanas(def cant), flounder, puffers :/ (not in order) but I like all of these. I wanna keep one and the best suited for me. Iam trying to stick with the 55 but ill go higher if I have to highest being 75. I also like gulper catfish but dunno where to get em cheap or something li ke them O:
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Lungfish are illegal in some areas, so you may want to look into that.
Gars get HUGE. Google search "Alligator Gar".
Rope fish would be fine, they are top-notch escape artists though. Bichirs should be okay, very territorial though. Arowana need 400 gal. minimum. Flounder would be okay, not active though.
PinkFloydPuffer is the pro on puffers, you could have 2 Figure 8 puffers, 2 Green Spotted Puffers. But be aware that these are BRACKISH water fish, and GSP go full MARINE as adults.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Scratch Lungfish. They reach 4' in length. That's the entire of a length of a 55 or 75. They need a 6' (125 gal.) tank.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
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Scratch Lungfish. They reach 4' in length. That's the entire of a length of a 55 or 75. They need a 6' (125 gal.) tank.
I might be allowed to get a larger tank xD so hopefully with that I can have a better fish(well a fish suited for me). In all honesty I love all fish but some I love more than others. Btw what is the tank size you suggest I get? And if I do get it what type? Long? Tall? Or breeder?
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Lungfish are illegal in some areas, so you may want to look into that.
Gars get HUGE. Google search "Alligator Gar".
Rope fish would be fine, they are top-notch escape artists though. Bichirs should be okay, very territorial though. Arowana need 400 gal. minimum. Flounder would be okay, not active though.
PinkFloydPuffer is the pro on puffers, you could have 2 Figure 8 puffers, 2 Green Spotted Puffers. But be aware that these are BRACKISH water fish, and GSP go full MARINE as adults.
I know about the arowana thats why I said I cant have them. I love them but I cant have them. I like bichirs and ropefish but dont know if they would hand feed like an eel would. Or if theyd recognize their feeder. And I know alligator gar get huge. I like the "needlenose gar" which is the smallest of all gars. Or is it an imitation? and just a needlefish. Idk I forget. Funny thing is Iam in college x_x I came from registrations so Iam defenitely getting a bigger tank. And if not ._. Ill stick with either ropefish, or somekind of catfish, or a bichir, or the jack dempsey you suggested. I love predatory fish the most. But not the really lazy ones.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
For a lungfish, a 125 gal. would be minimum. Standard tank.
Also, lungfish are escape artists, anad can live out of water, so keep that in mind. You still need to research if they are legal near you. They are considered an invasive species in the South. Lungfish are not active, many of the large predators aren't.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...97&pcatid=1897

These guys are pretty cool.. if you are going with the 75g tank it might just work
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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For a lungfish, a 125 gal. would be minimum. Standard tank.
Also, lungfish are escape artists, anad can live out of water, so keep that in mind. You still need to research if they are legal near you. They are considered an invasive species in the South. Lungfish are not active, many of the large predators aren't.
My father keeps bothering me to get an oscar Dx he knows I love them but hes saying their fine in a 55g because he showed me alot of sites Dx but Idk whats what I want whats best for the fish.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
http://www.oscarfishlover.com/index....ank-setup.html
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
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I know I know @_@ its just the fishlore front says it which the guy at our store said to look at all the sites provided. Then a few other sites he showed me. Dx Thus Iam wondering what is what? Why they just dont change that?
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I believe I explained the reasoning before,
they can SURVIVE in a 55 gal., they will NOT THRIVE.
Oscars reach over 12" in length full grown, the width of a 55 gal. is ONLY 12 ". Obviously the Oscar will not be comfortable. It will, in fact, stunt the growth of the Oscar - which is painful & shortens the life of the fish.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
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I believe I explained the reasoning before,
they can SURVIVE in a 55 gal., they will NOT THRIVE.
Oscars reach over 12" in length full grown, the width of a 55 gal. is ONLY 12 ". Obviously the Oscar will not be comfortable. It will, in fact, stunt the growth of the Oscar - which is painful & shortens the life of the fish.
But doesnt the jack dempsey grow that size too?
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
No, a JD is about 8 in. for a female & 10 in. for a male.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Why don't you read this source... it will explain to you why an oscar cannot go in a 55g..
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Why don't you read this source... it will explain to you why an oscar cannot go in a 55g..
www.monsterfishkeepers.com
I know I did Dx
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Are you still considering a Oscar for the 55 gal.?
If you say that you can get a large enough tank for a lungfish, why not get the 125 and stock an Oscar & a few other large cichlids?
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
this isn't quite odball but it fits most of ur requierments an oscar sounds good for YOU!!!!
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Are you still considering a Oscar for the 55 gal.?
If you say that you can get a large enough tank for a lungfish, why not get the 125 and stock an Oscar & a few other large cichlids?
I dont want to stock the fish in the 55 like you said :/ my father does >_< Iam convincing him to keep the tank and let me have a 75. I wanted a 125 but Idk if ill be able to Dx I ****ed off my mom Dx so yeah ill try an 80
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
No offense, but if it's your tank, why is your father trying to stock it?
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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No offense, but if it's your tank, why is your father trying to stock it?
It runs in the family o.e parents tell us what to do x_x but I do love oscars x_x hes just well he wants it his way. So Ived been looking for something even better x_x thats why ived been posting sooo many questions. I dont want the fish to be h armed Dx
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
You sure do love those anime smilies, lol.
I understand, but as much as your father wants an Oscar, as a responsible pet owner he needs to put the need of the animal first before his own wants.
Do you have a LFS that sells these oddball fish? Besides the Oscar & JD, I have never seen any of the other fish readily available.
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
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You sure do love those anime smilies, lol.
I understand, but as much as your father wants an Oscar, as a responsible pet owner he needs to put the need of the animal first before his own wants.
Do you have a LFS that sells these oddball fish? Besides the Oscar & JD, I have never seen any of the other fish readily available.
Yes I have a special dealer. I can get virtually any fish I want >> but I dont want to go over 90dollars. Because obviously if it dies x_x 90 bucks down the drain Iam obssessed over fish and all animals but would rather not endanger an animal. But trying to keep parent happy. Though I want the oscar he wants to get it for me because he knows I want it. Yet wont provide a larger quarters for the fish. And yes I do love my anime smiles I see them soo much Its implanted in my brain I type them without noticing them till I revise what I wrote...
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Old June 22nd, 2009  
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Do you think I could keep one bullhead catfish? (looks like a channel cat but stays about a foot or less)
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