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Old November 24th, 2008  
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aaah, much better!

Well, after yesterdays trauma (my tank was overstocked and my fish were acting wierd....see "new neons acting wierd" post)....i think things are finally perking up!...

The neons and Glowlights (especially neons), are darting around the middle area of the tank aswell as the bottom, and when i fed them, they all came up to the top for food. But i have some questions...

1) do fish sleep?, because after a long period of darkness, when i turn the lights on, all the fish are resting on the gravel. Soon they start investigating, and swimming around the tank.

2) The water in the tank water is moving from side to side to side, as if someone has just gently shaken the tank. The fish don't seem to mind, but some of the lighter plants are shaking in the current. Also, when the fish go really near the top, they move from side to side with the water. What do you think is causing this, and can i fix it?

x Please answer both if you can, thanks. x
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Old November 24th, 2008  
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1. yes they do sleep..and sometimes on their sides...
2. a heavy current is probably causeing the water to move..is the tank filled up to the top to stop some of the water outtake from hitting the surface from a far distance?
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Old November 24th, 2008  
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1. yes they do sleep..and sometimes on their sides...
2. a heavy current is probably causeing the water to move..is the tank filled up to the top to stop some of the water outtake from hitting the surface from a far distance?
No, its not filled up to the top, because its one of those BiOrb thingies, and your not supposed too. BiOrbs are pretty restricted in what you can do with them, but they look cool, and i only had a small corner of my bedroom to put the tank in!
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Old November 24th, 2008  
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More questions....

1) One of my neons is missing half his dorsal fin, but there is no sign of infection. He swims almost as well as the others, and he doesn't get picked on. Will this fin grow back or will it be torn for good?

2) What are the signs of ammonia burns? Because i was impatient with the nitrogen cycle thingy, and i want to make sure the fish aren't getting affected by this.

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Old November 24th, 2008  
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1. yes it will with clean water and some stress coat ..get some vita chem and garlic guard if you can find it

2. you have ammonia in the tank? did you know about the cycle before you bought your fish?? if so and your tank isnt cycled, and the issues you had are going to return..you need DAILY water changes with some prime are needed to save the fishies until it is..which takes weeks unless you get some tetra safestart...ammonia burns look like regular burns or big white patches fromt he skin falling off..I hope you dont have that issue

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Old November 25th, 2008  
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1. yes it will with clean water and some stress coat ..get some vita chem and garlic guard if you can find it

2. you have ammonia in the tank? did you know about the cycle before you bought your fish?? if so and your tank isnt cycled, and the issues you had are going to return..you need DAILY water changes with some prime are needed to save the fishies until it is..which takes weeks unless you get some tetra safestart...ammonia burns look like regular burns or big white patches fromt he skin falling off..I hope you dont have that issue
No, i don't know if theres any ammonia, i'm still waiting for the test kit i oredered, i just wanted to watch out for ammonia burns incase there was ammonia...

the fish don't show any signs of ammonia burns, and they feed properly. They also swim around alot, so i don't think theres any ammonia in there...like i said, i'm still awaiting the test kit!
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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If your tank isn't cycled then there will be ammonia being produced by your fish. Since your tank is small, I recommend doing daily 25% water changes to keep the ammonia and nitrites down (both are bad for your fish).

yes fish do sleep, my neons are always at the bottom of my tank before the light turns on, they lose their red color too!
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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No, i don't know if theres any ammonia, i'm still waiting for the test kit i oredered, i just wanted to watch out for ammonia burns incase there was ammonia...

the fish don't show any signs of ammonia burns, and they feed properly. They also swim around alot, so i don't think theres any ammonia in there...like i said, i'm still awaiting the test kit!
was the tank cycled?
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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thats alright then. ya know when i do the water changes. How long do i leave the tap water with the water conditioner to work its magic?!

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was the tank cycled?
Yep, by 1 week, and i know thats not long enough because people told me after i put the fish in, but my test kit is coming soon, and i'm trying to do daily water changes...

I just need someone to answer my question above

Last edited by Lucy; November 25th, 2008 at 03:08 PM. Reason: back to back posts
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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thats alright then. ya know when i do the water changes. How long do i leave the tap water with the water conditioner to work its magic?!



Yep, by 1 week, and i know thats not long enough because people told me after i put the fish in, but my test kit is coming soon, and i'm trying to do daily water changes...

I just need someone to answer my question above
The water condition works instantly.

It takes longer than 1 week to cycle a tank unless you used Tetra SafeStart or seeded it with filter media from an established tank.

Here's an explanation of the cycling process:
http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm

Edit: Oops misread your post. You're tank is still cycling then?
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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thats alright then. ya know when i do the water changes. How long do i leave the tap water with the water conditioner to work its magic?!



Yep, by 1 week, and i know thats not long enough because people told me after i put the fish in, but my test kit is coming soon, and i'm trying to do daily water changes...

I just need someone to answer my question above
bettaluver you knew from your other thread that adding more fish in an uncycled tank wasnt good so now as lucy has said in both threads, daily water changes with prime is needed...the conditioner and water are added together and work immediately
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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bettaluver you knew from your other thread that adding more fish in an uncycled tank wasnt good so now as lucy has said in both threads, daily water changes with prime is needed...the conditioner and water are added together and work immediately

I did? Ha, At least I'm consistant.
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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I did? Ha, At least I'm consistant.
so is bettaluver!!!
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Old November 25th, 2008  
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bettaluver you knew from your other thread that adding more fish in an uncycled tank wasnt good so now as lucy has said in both threads, daily water changes with prime is needed...the conditioner and water are added together and work immediately
Yer, i knew that, i just needed to know how long i had to leave the water conditioner in the tap water before i add it to the tank =]
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