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Old April 26th, 2009  
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Loud music?

So i've read up on this a little bit already. In my room i have a pair of b&w speakers (the same room as my 55 gal cichlid tank and 75 gal SW tank) that i like to play really loud. I know fish can't here but they do sense vibrations so i'm a little worried about it stressing them. I normally play it pretty loud and it doesn't seem to bother any of the cichlids or any of the fish in the saltwater tank (except my tang but i figure that's because i got him yesterday and he's still pretty skittish and hides whenever i go over to the tank. so i gave him a break and only played one song today) My question is will the vibrations stress the fish even though it doesn't seem to affect them at all?
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Old April 26th, 2009  
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actually from what I've read and been told, fish can hear, but they rely more on the sensing of vibration. My brother will jump on my bed every once in a while (I HATE it when he does that) and the vibrations will be sensed by the fish. They do sense vibrations out of the tank very easily, and you could be stressing them out by playing loud music particularly with strong bass.
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Old April 26th, 2009  
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Yeah, heavy bass can stress (possibly even injure) fish, as water carries sound and vibration very well.
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Old April 26th, 2009  
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If I'm not mistaken, water carries sound waves even better than air! So I would be careful...
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Old April 27th, 2009  
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Yes water carries sound better then air through vibrations it is magnified about 10X when it travels through water.. That is why taping on the glass of a tank is the worst thing for fish that little tap sounds like a truck too them...So playing loud music is bad for your fish IMO....Rob
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Old April 27th, 2009  
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Good morning. Both of my tanks are located in the same room with my Baby Grand. I practice at least an hour a day and the fish don't seem to suffer from it. However, a cranked up sound system may be a different matter. I have to agree with the above statements.
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Old April 27th, 2009  
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Good morning. Both of my tanks are located in the same room with my Baby Grand. I practice at least an hour a day and the fish don't seem to suffer from it. However, a cranked up sound system may be a different matter. I have to agree with the above statements.
A Baby Grand is loud, but it doesn't have directional bass, which is likely to be the most harmful aspect. I've been in a room where you could set your cup on a table ten feet away from the subwoofer and see the rings in the water because of how hard the bass was hitting it. Imagine having to swim in that.
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Old April 27th, 2009  
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Rock ON!

When we humans "hear" a noise we are able to associate that noise with something, sometimes a negative. ie if we hear a siren and blinking lights behind us while driving(too fast) then we may associate that particular noise with a negative.

Likewise fish hear through the vibrations in the water and associate water movement from such with feelings. If they feel certain vibrations and a shark shows up then they will associate that with a negative next time. But if you play music and then feed them, they will associate that vibration in the water as a positive.

It's all about association, not the vibration in the water itself.

So, rock on, but don't forget to feed your fish!

In addition, a quick tap on the glass can be a negative...just like a firecracker going off to us....so don't do that. But the continual vibrations in the water...not a problem.

I can hear the Beach Boys and "Good Vibrations" and so can my fish... Oh yeah.

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Old April 27th, 2009  
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When we humans "hear" a noise we are able to associate that noise with something, sometimes a negative. ie if we hear a siren and blinking lights behind us while driving(too fast) then we may associate that particular noise with a negative.

Likewise fish hear through the vibrations in the water and associate water movement from such with feelings. If they feel certain vibrations and a shark shows up then they will associate that with a negative next time. But if you play music and then feed them, they will associate that vibration in the water as a positive.

It's all about association, not the vibration in the water itself.

So, rock on, but don't forget to feed your fish!
I'd think a painful stimulus is a painful stimulus, whether it's followed by food or not. Just my 2c.

try headphones?
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Old April 27th, 2009  
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I'd think a painful stimulus is a painful stimulus, whether it's followed by food or not. Just my 2c.

try headphones?
haha i would but it's not really the same feeling as a 1000 watt subwoofer and an amazing pair of speakers. The other thing is i tend to only listen to it very loudly when i have friends over so that would sort of defeat the purpose.
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Old April 28th, 2009  
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haha i would but it's not really the same feeling as a 1000 watt subwoofer and an amazing pair of speakers. The other thing is i tend to only listen to it very loudly when i have friends over so that would sort of defeat the purpose.
Well then I don't recommend a fish tank in your room. But I guess if they don't seemed stressed or hurt then it's fine. But in the long run it might cause some harm.
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Old April 28th, 2009  
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Well then I don't recommend a fish tank in your room. But I guess if they don't seemed stressed or hurt then it's fine. But in the long run it might cause some harm.
Well it's a little late for no tanks in my room seeing as how my 55 gal and 75 gal are already fully set up and in place. I might move my speakers down to my basement and use them there.
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