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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Is this good?

Would this be a good set up for a 20 gallon tank? Divided in half, each half 10 gallons. In side one, 1 dwarf puffer, 3 kuhli loaches, heavily planted with live plants, one rock fixture. In side two: One betta, 3 dwarf loaches, moderately planted with live plants, one rock fixture, one fake anemone. Will be heated to 80*.

will I need co2?

Please let me know if this would be a good set up. No rush as It will be a couple of months before I can get the tank, i am still fluctuating as to what tank to get but I am pretty set on a 20 gallon, as it fits my needs and space perfectly. It allows me much more room for fish! I've got MTS and MFS! LOL
Brianna
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Re: Is this good?

I'm afraid the dwarf puffer would kill the kuhlis when they get really active.
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Re: Is this good?

I too had that worry. I did not think dwarf puffers could be kept with anything but otocinclus, but a forum member here, Timmy-Man, has kept his dp's with kuhlis. I did not think this was a good idea, but since I have investigated it and found that several other people also sucessfully keep kuhlis with DP's. If I do see any signs of aggression I will promtly remove them. Would it be possible to move the divider to give the betta and dwarf loaches more room, and add the kuhlis in with the betta and dwarf loaches (if I see any agression from the DP)? I do really want to have both dwarf loaches and kuhlis, but I cannot see setting up two tanks, a 20 gallon and atleast a 10 gallon for kuhlis. I don't think my mother would approve!

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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Re: Is this good?

Kuhlis are wonderful but they wiggle up and down the glass and I was afraid the puffer might feel threatened. the dwarf loaches also move around quite alot just watch and make sure the kuhlis and dwarf loaches don't stress their tank mates.check out these kuhlis playing in the bubbles
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Re: Is this good?

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I too had that worry. I did not think dwarf puffers could be kept with anything but otocinclus, but a forum member here, Timmy-Man, has kept his dp's with kuhlis. I did not think this was a good idea, but since I have investigated it and found that several other people also sucessfully keep kuhlis with DP's. If I do see any signs of aggression I will promtly remove them. Would it be possible to move the divider to give the betta and dwarf loaches more room, and add the kuhlis in with the betta and dwarf loaches (if I see any agression from the DP)? I do really want to have both dwarf loaches and kuhlis, but I cannot see setting up two tanks, a 20 gallon and atleast a 10 gallon for kuhlis. I don't think my mother would approve!

brianna, i just got a dp..and was gonna put a ghost shrimp in there..whatever happens happens. but i am now interested in these khuli loaches...anyone have a pic of them..my google isnt working right.
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Re: Is this good?

I'm afraid they would be too small for your 5 gallon tank. They look like snakes, they are black and white striped. I don't have a picture. Thanks for your concern Carol. I will certainly watch them. I wanted the dwarf loaches because they were so active. Brianna
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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ok a ghost shrimp it is then. another question my puffer when he comes up to the tank swooshes his tail to one side of his body and leaves it there for awhile. then do the same with the other side of his body...but he'll go straight when hes darting around. hes so cute. he was one in a bunch at the store, and his tails has been nipped at pretty good...im glad i helped him and he has this whole tank to himself
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Make sure his tummy is round but not bloated after he eats. And normally it should be kinda flat or a little pudgy but NOT sunken in. If it is sunken in he probably has internal parisites, also if he has stringy white poop he probably has Internal parisites as well. You would have to soak bloodworms overnight in a anti-internal parisite medicine then feed them to get rid of them. Good luck with your little guy, does he/she have a name?
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Make sure his tummy is round but not bloated after he eats. And normally it should be kinda flat or a little pudgy but NOT sunken in. If it is sunken in he probably has internal parisites, also if he has stringy white poop he probably has Internal parisites as well. You would have to soak bloodworms overnight in a anti-internal parisite medicine then feed them to get rid of them. Good luck with your little guy, does he/she have a name?
no his ummy looks normal is this tail thing normal though...are their tails always straight even when they're being curious and just looking at you..im concerned about his tail..it doesnt only stay at one side he'll swoosh it to the other too. o i named him bean..im really superstitous and hate naming cuz its like bad luck for me, but i couldnt help it the name just popped in my head and hes too cute to be without a name
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Im not sure if its normal or not... but I have never heard of that being a problem. "Bean" is a cute name for him!
Brianna
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Old May 20th, 2007  
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Black kuhlis (pangio javanicus) and striped kuhlis (pangio kuhli)
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Black kuhlis
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Old May 21st, 2007  
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Great pics! I am afraid that the dwarf loaches are out of the question for me
They do not sell them anywhere near me, and I looked online and they are $20 a peice. I have lost fish before that cost $10, but I could not see spending $20 on a fish. And I'd have to get them shipped, thats another $25 on top of that, minimum. So any other loaches that they may sell at petco or petsmart? I saw Angelicus loaches but they were $23 and they get kinda big. I already gonna have Kuhlis for the side with the dwarf puffer. Oh well I will have to figure something else out. Suggestions please?
Brianna
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Old May 21st, 2007  
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hmm im with you i have no idea what to put in with them besides ghost shrimp...actually i guess i cant put much else cuz my 5 gallon...well im sure theres something else i could put in there..you need 2-3 inches for the puffer...so as long as it didnt grow over 2 inches i should be able to get something else
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Old May 21st, 2007  
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First thing, dwarf puffers or "pea" puffers get only 1". Full grown. You cannot put ANY other fish in with it, besides shrimp. It will KILL any other fish you put in with it. The only acceptable tankmate for that tank with your puffer would be shrimp. Thats it. Nothing else. Don't listen to what pet store people tell you either. They do not know anything and will tell you anything to sell a fish. Brianna
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First thing, dwarf puffers or "pea" puffers get only 1". Full grown. You cannot put ANY other fish in with it, besides shrimp. It will KILL any other fish you put in with it. The only acceptable tankmate for that tank with your puffer would be shrimp. Thats it. Nothing else. Don't listen to what pet store people tell you either. They do not know anything and will tell you anything to sell a fish. Brianna
o yes i know dont worry i meant shrimp not any other fish.. i was thinking either some other type of shrimp or snails..i do know at least a little about puffers lol
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Old May 21st, 2007  
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Re: Is this good?

Yes but sometimes shrimp will kill each other. Amano shrimp are good, and Cherry are good as well. Bamboo or "wood" shrimp are hard to keep alive I have heard. I would love pics of Bean and his tank! Brianna
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