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October 10th, 2006
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Fish Helper
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Soapy fish
On Sunday I clumsily spilled Pine-Sol into one of my tanks. I was cleaning something else and disaster ensued. Anyway, I was quarantining about fourteen new fish in this tank. I lost all of my rummy-nose tetras and a few harlequin rasboras within two minutes. I managed to save eight fish (five harlequins, two otos, one clown loach) and my three mystery snails. I cleaned (well, rinsed) the entire tank and set up everything again.
I added a new filter(soaked in old water from another tank)
I put in about 15% old water from another tank, all of the water from the tank they were temporarily kept in since it was pretty much new water, and topped off the rest with completely new water, with Stress Coat and Stress Zyme.
Today the water parameters are:
pH 6.8-7.0
ammonia 0 ppm
nitrite 0 ppm
nitrate 5-10 ppm
I was wondering how long y'all think these troopers will live? I actually missed one oto while I was rescuing the fish...found it the next morning when I began my rinsing, chilling out in less than a centimeter of water! I've been monitoring them closely; the loach looks okay, its breathing and its color look very normal; the rasboras are more darty than I remember, but I hadn't had them for very long; and the otos are, well, oto-ey for now. Who knows what the snails are feeling.
AND as if there wasn't enough going on already, I was treating this particular tank for body fungus and ich. The fish that I saw the diseases on were the first to die, I guess. In the new set-up I've kept the water temperature at 85 just in case the other fish have the unnoticeable stages of ich. Should I drop another tablet into the tank to treat for body fungus, or should I wait for visible symptoms?
I panicked when the fish started dying off almost immediately after exposure, so I scooped out the clown and put it into another tank (I was extremely reluctant to do that) for a few minutes while I filled a bucket and so on. The loach wasn't visibly ill, but I'm curious: what are the chances that I've infected this second tank with body fungus and/or ich?
Finally, is there anything else y'all think I should do?
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October 10th, 2006
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Fish Master
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Re: Soapy fish
OMG ... a Pine-Sol! Well, at least the fish didn't have to suffer long and death was quick  . Better this than slow and painful death, right? By the way, how exactly did the chemical get into the tank?
If your tank will have to cycle again, I really don't know if you should be treating the fish during the cycle (though you may want to wait for Carol's, Gunnie's, or Rose's opinion). But if the tank is cycled and fine, I think it's OK to continue the treatment. Though keep up with the water changes, especially now, after the incident with the chemical. I don't know if it's possible that your fish may have some of the chemical in their bodies. but if it is, perhaps more frequent and larger water changes at least for now would be good. Just some thoughts. I HOPE they'll live long.
P.S. Haven't seen you here for a while! |
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October 11th, 2006
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Fish Helper
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Re: Soapy fish
I was hoping that the tank wouldn't have to cycle at all, or have a very fast cycle by adding old water and soaking the new filter in old water. The water is still at zero ammonia and zero nitrites, with the nitrates increasing, so I'm thinking that the cycle was bypassed because of the old water. At least I hope so!
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October 11th, 2006
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Moderator
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Re: Soapy fish
Good to see you  I would do large water changes for a few days to make sure any chemicals they may have absorbed are taken out of the water. Now I'm afraid it's a waiting game  I personally wouldn't add any meds right now unless you absolutely have to.
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October 12th, 2006
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Fish Helper
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Re: Soapy fish
Alright, watching and waiting are in progress.
Thanks for the welcomes, it's good to be back! lol
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October 12th, 2006
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Re: Soapy fish
Keep us posted please.
Carol
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October 12th, 2006
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Fish Master
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Re: Soapy fish
And how are the fishies doing?
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October 16th, 2006
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Fish Helper
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Re: Soapy fish
This is the weirdest thing; all of my fish are sticking and staying! I completely expected them all to be dead within a few days. I really expected that one oto that I accidently left in a quarter of a centimeter of water to be dead...but it's just as alive as it can be.
There are no signs of body fungus or ich. I guess that was a "good" way to kill the diseases off! Joking, of course. I'm keeping the water at 85 degrees Fahrenheit for another week, though. Should the large water changes stop? I've been changing half of the water every two days or so.
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October 16th, 2006
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Fish Master
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Re: Soapy fish
I suppose you can decrease the water changes to normal if water parameters are very good and nothing bad has happened so far to the fish. I am glad they're all OK! LOL ... a new medication against fungus and ich: PINE SOL, haha  |
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October 17th, 2006
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Fish Keeper
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Re: Soapy fish
Yikes!
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October 17th, 2006
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Fish Addict
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Re: Soapy fish
Pine sol as medicine, * Ha ha ha! 8) |
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October 19th, 2006
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Fish Master
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Re: Soapy fish
LOL
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October 22nd, 2006
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Fish Keeper
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Re: Soapy fish
One of my LFS just had someone sabotage their outdoor Koi pond by throwing in Pine-Sol and they've already lost all their biggest Koi.. my flabber is well and truly gasted that someone could be so cruel.. although we couldn't help wondering if the workers in another LFS that's a couple of blocks up the road mightn't have had something to do with it, all in the name of sticking it to the competition.. sheesh!!
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October 22nd, 2006
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Fish Keeper
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Re: Soapy fish
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Originally Posted by Richard
One of my LFS just had someone sabotage their outdoor Koi pond by throwing in Pine-Sol and they've already lost all their biggest Koi.. my flabber is well and truly gasted that someone could be so cruel.. although we couldn't help wondering if the workers in another LFS that's a couple of blocks up the road mightn't have had something to do with it, all in the name of sticking it to the competition.. sheesh!!
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That is just wrong on so many different levels.  |
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October 23rd, 2006
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Fish Master
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Re: Soapy fish
I really will never understand anyone who intentionally causes fish deaths. Such a cruel mind is beyond my comprehension.
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October 24th, 2006
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Fish Helper
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Re: Soapy fish
Richard, how terrible! The ones that make it through something like that are definitely troopers.
The ones I saved are STILL alive, so my flabber is gasted as well.*  * I'm about to move them on to the big tank and get more.
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November 8th, 2006
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Fish Addict
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Re: Soapy fish
Accidentally: ok, a little funny.( If there is little death)
On Purpose: Terrible!
What curel mind did this? Install cameras in case they come back! Then get payback. |
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