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View Poll Results: Which plan do you like best?
Plan A 3 50.00%
Plan B 3 50.00%
Plan C 0 0%
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
3 stocking plans - which one is best?

I am currently in the process of stocking my 75 gallon moderately planted tank (will get more plants soon and make it very fully planted). The fish I have so far are: 2 Angelfish, 1 Golden Algae Eater, 6 Cherry Barbs, 6 Harlequin Rasboras (4 of which are new and in my Q tank for the next 3 weeks), and 2 Zebra Danios. (I will have a total of 6 Zebra Danios soon.)

Here are the 3 stocking plans (what fish totals the tank will have once I'm done stocking):

PLAN A
2 Angelfish (10")
1 Golden Algae Eater (5")
6 Cherry Barbs (9")
6 Harlequin Rasboras (9")
6 Zebra Danios (9")
3 German Blue Rams (~7")
4-6 (?) Diamond Tetras (8 - 12")
TOTAL = 57 - 61"

Plan B
2 Angelfish (10")
1 Golden Algae Eater (5")
6 Cherry Barbs (9")
10 Harlequin Rasboras (15")
8 Zebra Danios (12")
3 German Blue Rams (~7")
TOTAL = 58"

PLAN C
2 Angelfish (10")
1 Golden Algae Eater (5")
6 Cherry Barbs (9")
10 Harlequin Rasboras (15")
8 Zebra Danios (12")
4-6 (?) Diamond Tetras (8 - 12")
TOTAL = 59" - 63"

The reason none of the plans has a stocking level of the full 75" is that I need to subtract some space for gravel, driftwood, and plants. They all take up a lot of space.

The reason Cherry Barbs stay at 6 only in all 3 plans is that they don't school as readily as Zebra Danios and Harlequin Rasboras do. Harlequin Rasboras school most beautifully of the 3 groups.

Anyway, which numbers and combinations of fish are best for my tank in your opinion?
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

The only thing I noticed is the GAE it says 6", is it this one
http://www.fishlore.com/profile-chinesealgaeeater.htm?
If it is, they get to 10" and will attatch themselves to your angels and suck off the fish slime and eventually kill the angel. Other than that, I would go with either A or B, only because it has rams.
Tom
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Bum
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

Personally, I like Plan B...I like a lot of variety, so I'd go with A, but with those schooling fish, they do seem to look neater the more you'd have, so I'd trade the school of diamond tetras for more rasboras and danios. No scientific reasons, Plan B just appeals to me more!
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Bum
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

By the way, I have also heard the same thing about the GAEs. I have one in my community tank too. He's still young, so it's not a problem yet, but I am worried about what will happen when he gets older. I thought at first that a golden algae eater was entirely different from a chinese algae eater, but apparently they're the same thing, just a different variation.
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Mentor
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

I like plan A and Plan B!
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

Tom and Manda , yes, the Golden ("Chinese") algae eater has a reputation of sucking on the protective slime coating of fish. BUT, according to my own experience, this fish will never do such things if it is provided with appropriate diet and enough swimming space. I've had this GAE for over 3 years now and he NEVER sucked at any of my fish's protective slime coating.

My personal experience with this fish is VERY different from its bad reputation. Yes, I am 100% sure it will be aggressive when kept in a small tank and fed with poor diet. Keep in mind that most people that buy fish are beginners who more often than not keep fish in tanks that are way too small for the kinds of fish they have as well as in tanks that have way too many fish. They also often think that algae eaters should only eat tank algae, without any other dietary supplements. No wonder this fish later gets "bad" reputation. Being kept in such contitions certainly will cause it to become aggressive.

Please read this entire thread to see why I am keeping this fish: http://www.fishlore.com/Forum/index.php?topic=12857.0
(It is important that you read everything from top to bottom.)

P.S. Tom, most fish sizes you see in various online articles and books give the size of the fish as it would have in nature. In captivity, 100% of fish grow much smaller than they'd normally be in nature, even if they're in big tanks. I've had my GAE for over 3 years and it has not exceeded 5" in size. I presume he had stopped growing long ago.

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...but with those schooling fish, they do seem to look neater the more you'd have, so I'd trade the school of diamond tetras for more rasboras and danios...
Manda, that's exactly what I was thinking too.

Sabi, thank you for your opinion too.
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

Good point. I had forgotten that fish don't grow as big in an aquarium as they do in wild. But my question about that is, what happens if the fish are wild caught, would it still grow to the wild size? Back on topic, I guess you are lucky then compared to the rep of them, I was too.
Tom
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

Tom, just a note: I am not saying these fish can't be aggressive. Maybe there are aggressive GAEs even with perfect diets and in large tanks. All I am saying is that in my personal experience, my GAE is relatively (and surprisingly) peaceful. I am by no means encouraging people to get these algae eaters. They definitely should NOT get them if they won't be able to provide them with appropriate living conditions.
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isabella
Tom, just a note: I am not saying these fish can't be aggressive. Maybe there are aggressive GAEs even with perfect diets and in large tanks. All I am saying is that in my personal experience, my GAE is relatively (and surprisingly) peaceful. I am by no means encouraging people to get these algae eaters. They definitely should NOT get them if they won't be able to provide them with appropriate living conditions.
I undersatand what you meant, I was just saying you were lucky to have a peaceful GAE/CAE and I was also lucky that I had peaceful ones.
Tom
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

I'm glad you had peaceful ones too See, maybe they're all not so bad
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Old September 5th, 2007  
Tom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isabella
I'm glad you had peaceful ones too See, maybe they're all not so bad
And I had 2 in a tank, they only chased each other and that was it. They were really great algae eaters, than I found out about small plecos.
Tom
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

i like Plan B better

Peace Out Callum!
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

I see everybody loves the idea of 10 Harlequins
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Mentor
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

yeah, harlequins rule! Didnt you know?!
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Tom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabi
yeah, harlequins rule! Didnt you know?!
Ya, their right up there with bettas and angels and discus.

Isabella, what you could do is instead of the diamond tetras and danios and get a huge school of harlequins. It would look really beautiful with all the plants you have.
Tom
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

i like Plan A
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

maybe u should add a poll to it to see which ones people like better

Peace Out Callum!
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
Re: 3 stocking plans - which one is best?

I would just be careful with the CAE. Fish slime is an acquired taste, just because it doesn't like it now doesn't mean it never will.

But Plan B would look awesome.
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