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Old March 4th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
How many Creamsicle Lyetail mollies can I have In a 5 gallon

Please help me! I need to know
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Hi and welcome

realistically 1 at a push 2 sorry, even with one though it would be cramped for space the do like to swim long lenghts really

Last edited by Jonah; March 4th, 2009 at 05:56 PM.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
ok and can mollies and their fry survive without bubbles?
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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with a good filter, a heater and regular water changes at least twice a week in the tank with fry in it yes easily
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Old March 4th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
um how about in a gold fish bowl with regular water changes?
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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None. Mollies need filtered, heated water. 10 gal min IMO
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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unfortunately no, mollies are tropical fish and need temperatures of at least 78 degrees, they also need filtration and space to swim. a bowl isn't nearly enough room and is impossible to keep the water quality where you need it to be, it would require water changes daily or even twice daily.

IMO i wouldn't even put one mollie in a 5 gallon, it's pretty small and they need LOTS of space to swim. i think your best bet for stocking would be either one betta, one dwarf puffer OR two african dwarf frogs

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Old March 4th, 2009  
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A gold fish bowl would not really work as you cannot heat and filter it and without that you would lose many if not all the fry. Stable temperatures are important with all tropical fish but even more so with fry.

If the choices you have is to move a pregnant molly and her fry to a heated and filtered 5 gal or a goldfish bowl the 5gal is by a very long way the better option.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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um how about in a gold fish bowl with regular water changes?
No fish deserves to live in a bowl. I think you should get at least a 15 gallon tank if you want mollies, or consider other fish for the 5g.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Thanks pink that really helpd the conversation what are your fancy guupies going to move to?
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Thanks pink that really helpd the conversation what are your fancy guupies going to move to?
I was typing at the same time everyone else was. Really no need for you to be so rude.
And let's try to stay on topic, this thread is not about my guppies.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
I had 2 african dwarf frogs but one died tonight
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Let's stay on topic folks....this is fabcabs question not a thread to question anyone elses set up.


fabcab, really sorry about your frog. It's so sad to lose a fin baby. I agree that mollys need a larger tank. Here's some info you can read about them:
Mollies

Last edited by Lucy; March 4th, 2009 at 06:30 PM.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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I had 2 african dwarf frogs but one died tonight
This is my current tank set up 1 african dwarf frog,2 creamsicle lyretail mollies,2 otos. Thank you for the information and input Lucy!
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Also just so you guys think im not crazy i just didnt just say "I'm getting Mollies!" The fish seller at my local petsmart recommeded them for my first few fish and yes i do have a five gallon but all of my fish do or did seem very happy and content in there!
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Also just so you guys think im not crazy i just didnt just say "I'm getting Mollies!" The fish seller at my local petsmart recommeded them for my first few fish and yes i do have a five gallon but all of my fish do or did seem very happy and content in there!
Unfortunately so many of us here end up with the wrong size tank for the wrong fish thanks to advice from people at pet stores.
Are you testing your water? It would be a good idea to try and figure out why the frog passed before the other inhabitants of the tank get ill.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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no actually I am not testing my water but i found my frog dead intertwined in one of my plastic plants and I think that is the cause of its death. But If it wasn't im new to the whole fish care thing and how would I test my water?
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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First thing to do is understand the nitrogen cycle. Here's a link to it: NitrogenCycle
Get yourself a liquid test kit that tests for ammonia nitrites nitrates and pH. The API master kit is really reliable. Try to avoid the strips, they're innacuate.

In a cycled tank your readings will be 0 for ammonia 0 nitrites with 5-10 nitrates.
If there's any ammonia or nitrites you'll need to do water changes until your tank is cylced.

ADF's are very sensitive to water conditions. Many of the frogs that are sold now are also infected with Chytrid Fungus Luckily it doesn't effect fish, but keep your eye on your other frog. My frogs are always swimming through my plants so I would look to water quality or fungus as being an issue.

Since you don't have a test kit yet, it wouldn't hurt to do a water change tonight.

Good luck
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Thank you so much for all of the information Lucy and Jonah I will change the water tonight and hope get some liquid tests over the weekend and if anything DOES change I will be sure to let all of you know and hopefully ill still have one frog this weekend!
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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And before I Finally go, Lucy about the tests for the water will it hurt my tank or any of its inhabitants?
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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The tests won't hurt, you won't be adding anything to their water.
They come with test tubes. You put tank water in the test tubes then add drops from the test kit.
It seems a bit daunting at first, but it's kind of fun. My husband calls me the mad scientist when I get the kit out. lol
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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My husband calls me the mad scientist when I get the kit out. lol

I do feel a bit like a scientist when I do the tests. Makes me feel so smart, lol.
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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Old March 4th, 2009  
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cool!
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Old March 8th, 2009  
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Hi.. Mollies can grow to a pretty good size for livebearers and with 2, you're looking at a 1-sided pecking order that could be too much for the molly on the low end of it. I would recommend getting a 20g as soon as you could, along with 1 more molly.

They can have a bit of aggressiveness too, especially in cramped quarters and a 5g is likely to stunt their growth, causing shorter livespan and more health issues for them. They'll be ok for a little while, but definitely will be happier and benefit from a tank that lets them grow, have another molly and establish territory.
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Old March 18th, 2009  
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Sadly My last African Dwarf Frog died the day after the first one But On the Bright Side I think my girl molly "Pearl" Is "expecting" and hope fully I will be able to get some more tanks soon!
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Old March 18th, 2009  
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I'm really sorry about your frog.
I just looked at your aquarium info. It's listed as a S/W reef?
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Old March 18th, 2009  
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i'm sorry you lost your frog
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