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Old December 30th, 2008  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
My First Fish

So I am a beginner fish keeper but I am determined to do this right. At first I was a little anxious and not very knowledgeable. You can read all my set up and preparation or you can skip to the end for my questions, your call...


I received an 8 gallon BiOrb for Christmas 12/25. I rinsed everything and set it up properly, the only thing that did not go as directed was the filter at the bottle kept spinning when I turned it clockwise, whereas the directions said it should click into place... I began adding water and added about 6 gallons of tap water filtered through a Britta water filter and about 2 gallons of Poland Springs water. The box also included a package of organic rocks that covered the bottom that I rinsed before placing in the tank as well. The package came with a sample of Stress Coat and Stress Zyme. I added the stress Coat and let it run for 24 hours. I added the Stress Zyme on 12/26 and let it run knowing that I just had to "break the tank in" but not knowing about the NO2 cycle.

On 12/28 I purchased my first fish since I was about 5 and had a goldfish named Goldfish who promptly died on me. I bought three mollies as I liked their coloring, activity, they were good for beginners, and they are rather peaceful. I watched the ones I wanted for awhile to make sure they had no spots, looked healthy, and were about the same size. Each at about 1.5 inches I got a Silver Molly, Black Molly, and Dalmation Molly. I also bought: alarge ring plant (fake and designed for the BiOrb), a smaller standing plastic plant, a ceramic rock wall, box of aquarium salt and a large container of TetraMin, flakes.

I went home and rinsed all the accessories before placing them in the tank. The large plant is in the middle, and breaches the surface with plenty of places to hide, small plant is towards the front and I laced it to make a natural looking arch with the large plant, and the rock wall is in the back (back being where the wall is in respect to my orb). I added 1 and 1/4 tablespoons of aquarium salt as recommended. I then acclimated my fish in the bag (let it sit in the water for 15 minutes closed, opened it, scooped in some water bit by bit over about 50 minutes then let the fish swim out into their new home).

The next day I started to educate myself and get serious about taking care of them. I got some more Stress Coat and Zyme, some water testing strips, a suction tube to change the water, an algae sponge, a thermometer, and ordered a heater.

I tested the water 12/29 and 12/30 and it was as follows:
ammonia: 0ppm (Safe)
nitrate: ~10ppm (Safe)
nitrite: 0ppm (Safe)
chlorine: 0ppm (Safe)
Total Hardness: 150ppm (Hard)
alkalinity: 140ppm (Ideal)
pH: 7.6 (Slightly Alkaline)
Temp: 68* F
My tap water is hard with a little bit high salt content but everything else was safe when tested.

Assumptions based on what I've read:
Slightly salted water is healthier for the Mollies.
Hard water is more stable for pH and a slightly alkaline pH is better for the Mollies.
My Black Molly and Silver Molly are females (single rounded anal fin).
Temperature should be around 76*F but I'm waiting on my heater.
Change 25% of the water every 3 days for the first week, then biweekly each time adding appropriate amounts of Coat and Zyme and salt and letting it cycle before adding it (set it up 2 days before).
Feed them once a day, fast them on Sundays, alternate veggies every Saturday.

Questions:
1. Will my mollies be OK with a 68*F water temp for the next 3 days or so until my heater arrives?
2. My Dalmation Molly of unknown sex chases the Silver Molly around a lot but never the Black. It has a rounded anal fin but two wispy trailing fins on either side of its anal fin. I looked at pictures of males and their gonopodium (great, fish porn) but it doesn't look the same, they are definitely fins and there's two. What's up with this? I'm assuming it's a female but why the extra fins?
3. The Dalmation also shimmies, it doesn't shimmy when I'm not up close watching it but it does whenever I'm nearby. Is that begging?
4. Is hard water OK? Should I use water conditioner to make it softer?
5. Anything else that I should know?
NefastusAequitas is offline  
Old December 30th, 2008  
Fish Helper
 
I know how you feel, i just recently started fish keeping as well, and i know it can be tough to start out.

Now, im not sure if you know about the nitrogen cycle, but from what i read im assuming you don't. Before putting fish in your tank you should cycle it, this lets bacteria build up in your filter that can process the chemicals, Ammonia, that your fish produce.

So what your first priority right now should be is to go get some Tetra SafeStart, sold at most Local Fish Stores as well as in chain stores, this is used to cycle the tank safely while keeping the fish alive, follow the directions on the bottle and you will be fine.


Also get a heater as fast as possible, cold water is not good for tropical fish, Mollies need 70*F water or higher you might get by with 68 for a day or two but honestly i wouldn't risk it, i would buy a cheap heater until your ordered one arrives.

Now as for the mollies chasing each other, i wouldn't worry unless you see abrasions appearing on the molly being chased, it could be a bit stressful on the fish but it shouldn't be a big problem.

Water conditioner is a yes, even if your water is safe according to the test kit its better safe then sorry.

On a last note, it might be a bit better to use pellets then flakes, flakes begin to dissolve as soon as they hit the water, and much is wasted and sinks, which lets ammonia build up in the tank.
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Old December 31st, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Honestly, it would probably be much safer to try and raise the temperature where you live a little rather than buy a cheap heater. Heaters are not something I mess around with, because a faulty heater can quickly fry your fish and kill them.

It sounds like you are already cycled. In case you haven't read about it yet, when you start your cycle you will see spikes in ammonia, then nitrite, then a constant 5-10 PPM of nitrate as the bacteria begins to grow and convert everything. However, if you've been using strips to test your water these levels could be inaccurate, I would absolutely recommend and API master test kit. It is liquid and much more accurate. Also, I would suggest that you buy Prime for your water changes (50% daily changes with Prime if you are not cycled). Prime detoxifies ammonia for your for 24 hours, makes it safe for the fish for that amount of time and accessible to the bacteria on your filter media.

Good Luck!
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Old January 4th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Is it possible for him to be cycled in 3 days

Perhaps the cycle hasn't started yet if he tested the water right after adding fish?
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Old January 4th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
The water is doing much better and I got my heater in, water temp is around 78*F... but ever since I got my heater my mollies have been hovering right near it... I put a thermometer on the other side of the tank and the temperature is the same over there, but they just seem to always be swimming by the heater or staring at it. They are all females (i've heard this is sometimes due to pregnancy so thats not it) and I have no idea what's wrong with them but doing a cursory search on the net people who's mollies were doing this usually ended up with a dead molly.

Any idea what's going on?!
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