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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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I just need to vent about this...
Okay, I'm sorry, but when I saw this on the PetCo web site, I could feel the rage bubble up inside me...
http://www.petco.com/product/14428/A...etta-Bowl.aspx
WHO would keep their fish, ANY fish, in something this cramped and miserable!? First of all, this tank is only 9.5" in diameter -- barely bigger than the miserable little urine cups that they keep bettas in at the store. It can't be more than half a gallon, if that. Secondly, where is the heater? The filter? Bettas NEED these things... it is not optional! And I have seen them sell even smaller bowls at the store than this one... arrgh!!
Animal cruelty on this scale really pushes my buttons. The worst part of it is that the product is getting a 100% recommendation rate and a 4.8 of 5 rating. I can't stand the thought that people are using these things, hanging miserable and depressed fish on the wall like some kind of fancy ornament, to live the rest of their lives in so little space without the proper care and space they deserve. Bettas are living creatures, too darn it!! Anything under a gallon should be outlawed...
Yeah, I'm ranting, I just felt the need to blow off some steam...     
Last edited by Chief_waterchanger; July 12th, 2008 at 11:09 AM.
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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I don't blame you for being angry. I HATE it when I see stuff like this. It is so unfortunate that so many people see fish as ornaments and not as pets!!!
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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I've seen this on Ebay.....What a cruel and inhumane thing to do to our beloved Bettas!
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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What is it suction cupped to the bathroom wall?!!?!?!?! 
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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No, apparently you can hang it on a nail in the wall.
I'd like to hang people that use these bowls on a nail on the wall...
Thanks for understanding and letting me get it out of my system. @_@
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Helper
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First,that would be a HORRIBLE way to keep any fish.
Second,I keep my Bettas in 5 gallon Ecplise tanks,heated,and filtered.The thing I don't understand is that when I bought these tanks,they had pictures of the tanks on the box,with at least 10 fish in these little 5 gallon tanks!On one of the self promoting pamphlets included with the tank,they went on to say that with a Bio Wheel,you could keep more fish in a small tank,than with a conventional filter,or something along those lines.These are sold by Marineland.That is supposed to be a company that should be promoting GOOD fishkeeping.Not cramming a dozen fish into a 5 gallon tank!In my opinion,these tanks are only good for a single Betta,nothing else!It just seems to me that even the so called reputible companies,are still about the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!
Sorry,now I'm venting!
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Master
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unfortunately it happens daily...  it is about the money and with the economy as it is, things get worse...the puppymills are crazy..so its everywhere..all we can do is our best to educate and hope they listen
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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It's refreshing to see that other people get as fired up as I do about inhumane treatment of animals. Maybe someone else was, politely, to please leave the Pet Company store like I was. 
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbum
First,that would be a HORRIBLE way to keep any fish.
Second,I keep my Bettas in 5 gallon Ecplise tanks,heated,and filtered.The thing I don't understand is that when I bought these tanks,they had pictures of the tanks on the box,with at least 10 fish in these little 5 gallon tanks!On one of the self promoting pamphlets included with the tank,they went on to say that with a Bio Wheel,you could keep more fish in a small tank,than with a conventional filter,or something along those lines.These are sold by Marineland.That is supposed to be a company that should be promoting GOOD fishkeeping.Not cramming a dozen fish into a 5 gallon tank!In my opinion,these tanks are only good for a single Betta,nothing else!It just seems to me that even the so called reputible companies,are still about the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!
Sorry,now I'm venting!
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Yes, I know... they have like 5 pearl gouramis in the picture...
I have also seen this one and thought exactly the same.
Have you guys seen those LAVARIUMS? I think it is even more cruel than this! it does not even have substrate and the fish can barely turn around!
Cant we report these things?
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July 11th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Well, since we're on the topic, here's another one they sell:
I can just see these uneducated potential fish keepers going into the store and thinking, "Hey, bettas! They can live in a little vase and don't need any of that fancy/expensive/complicated equipment. Just put them in a cute bowl and viola!" -- it makes me so sad, because I know that most people, once they realized how cruel this is, they wouldn't keep their fishies in these inhumane containers. The bowl is really cute, I admit... but it isn't a living space! Education is key... and yes, it should be illegal to advertise toxically overstocked fish tanks and bowls that I wouldn't even keep a snail in. 
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July 12th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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This is the lavarium
This is just plain ridiculus.
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July 12th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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OMG! They put bettas in those  Thats awful! These people are evil! I don't understand how some people can have so much self imporatance and so much disregard for the lives of animals!
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July 12th, 2008
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King of Curt
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I understand being upset about things like that, and I in no way agree with the people that make those things, but please keep the language under control.  The unncessary language has been removed and supplimented with less inflammatory words, so it has been taken care of, but as angry as we get about those things we must remember that the children on this site do not need to read certain things... as well as any adults that foul language may offend.
Thanks for your continuing cooperation with the moderating team. 
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July 12th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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I am not sure if I was the one who did it, but if I was, I am sorry. I was posting a lot yesterday, so I don't really remember what I said. I would never intentially post something that I thought was inappropriate though.
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July 12th, 2008
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissMTS
I am not sure if I was the one who did it, but if I was, I am sorry. I was posting a lot yesterday, so I don't really remember what I said. I would never intentially post something that I thought was inappropriate though.
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It happens periodically. I think that, because the younger folks on this forum tend to be pretty mature, it's easy to forget that they are young.
I've found that it's a good idea to look over my post after I've hit the "Submit" button, just to verify that I haven't said anything inappropriate.
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July 12th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Thats a good idea. I'll start doing that 
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July 12th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Don't worry, it wasn't you! I remember what it was; I never considered that word offensive personally, but I can see how some people would not want to see it. So... sorry! I didn't think about it... but I will in the future.
Easy for a bunch of animal lovers to get really steamed about this topic, too. :/
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