DarkFin

Amanda

The pacu do need at least a 250 gal. tank to live confortably. They get over 2 feet long.

platy ben

They arent set for school, they are set for one fish, pacus get very large and require tons of swimming space.

Hillstream loaches require well oxygenated water and a strong current, neither can be effectively created in a small tank.

jgon_

Hillstream loaches need high currents to be happy and thus need a larger tank where you could properly set that up.

And adult Pacus get HUGE so a large tank is required.

DarkFin

ok, but Some of these fish need to be classified as one not as a school, this really throws off any ideas people have to put in there tank, I would like to get some loaches, but i cant get a single hillstream loach because it needs a 55g to feel comfertable!!!?

And your telling me that I cant get a heavily ariated tank in a 30g im pretty sure i can if i tried

Amanda

Hillstream Loaches need very specific living requirements. That is why a large tank is needed. Kuhuli loaches would do okay in a 30 gal.

DarkFin

that is bull many people on other sites even told me 1 oscar would do well in my 30g and a rainbow shark? im sure that 6 inch thing would live in a 30g not a 55g. I have had a common pleco in a 10g for 8 years now, and he has been fine, these pages are wrong.

jgon_

Its not just aeration. They need a strong 1 direction current to immitate the fast moving streams they live in. To achieve this with powerheads and some pipes you really do need a larger tank. Just tossing a powerhead or two in a smaller tank is only going to create turbulence.

DarkFin

and what about all the other fish

Amanda

No, you're being cruel to your fish, and not taking into account the damage you are causing them. A common pleco needs at least a 75 gal. tank.
A single Oscar needs a 55 gal. tank, they reach 12 in. in length.

jgon_

As Amanda said, these loaches need very specific requirments. So if you were to set up a tank for them you would need to find other fish (clown loaches, bosemani rainbows) that could also thrive in that environment.

DarkFin

THE PLECO HAS BEEN ONLY 4 INCHES ITS ENTIRE LIFE, IT HAS GROWN TO ITS TANK, and if i am being cruel, what could they possibly happen to them that already hasnt

platy ben

No, it hasnt grown to its tank, your tanks stunted its growth.

Im afraid your the person in the wrong, not fishlores pages.

jgon_

You have stunted its growth and have most likely greatly reduced its lifespan.

Not to sound too snarky, but why do you insist otherwise on the requirments for fish when we have told and shown you the proper conditions they need to live full lives.

Surviving =/= thriving

DarkFin

I have been reading on other sites that an oscar could live fully in a 30 gallon and not a minimum of a 55g

platy ben

They are probably saying it needs atleast a 30G to survive, but atleast a 55G is needed for it too THRIVE.

jgon_

The internet is not an infailiable resource. You can't just cherry pick the information from sites that is most convient for you. Look at other sites and see what the general concensus is.
http://www.oscarfishlover.com/

I think they'd know what they're talking about when it comes to Oscars.

DarkFin

ok, then tell me this on this site,

it says a 6 inch swordtail would do fine for a 10g
then it says a rainbow shark gets 6 inches and needs a 55g? why.