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February 24th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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Kuhlis and sand
i just got a new kuhli and i'm thinking about replacing my gravel substrate with sand. however, there was a warning label on the package saying not to use sand with bottom dwelling/burrowing fish. i've also read on the forum that kuhlis like to burrow and they should have a substrate of fine gravel or sand. what should i do? advice is greatly appreciated.
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February 24th, 2008
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Kuhlis do great with sand  What kind of sand is it that it says not to use it with bottom dwellers/burrowers? I use pool filter sand (doesn't need rinsing)
Your kuhli will be happier with more of their kind, they really aren't solitary fish.
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February 24th, 2008
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when I had kuhli's, I had small gravel, but for them I had things for them to go under and "hide" in...that seemed to suit my little Gus just fine.  |
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February 24th, 2008
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yea, i have lots of rocks and plants for him/her to hide in, but i just thought that sand would be nice too.
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February 27th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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One option would be to call or e-mail Carib Sea and ask them what the rationale is behind that warning.
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February 28th, 2008
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ok, i emailed carib-sea earlier, but haven't gotten a reply yet. also i found a bag of construction sand in my garage. i think it is supposed to be used for mixing concrete or grout or something. i was wondering if it would be ok in my fish tank, cause then i wouldn't have to buy anything. i think it should be safe as long as i wash it well, i mean sand is sand, right?
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March 1st, 2008
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Monkeyfish- Construction sand is really too sharp for fish and is really hard to get rinsed. While on the other hand pool filter sand is more rounded and doesn't have to be rinsed.
Carol
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March 1st, 2008
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thanks Butterfly, thats good to know. i guess sharp sand could really hurt my fish. is there any spacial brand of pool filter sand that works better than others? btw-haven't heard from carib-sea yet either...
Last edited by monkeyfish; March 1st, 2008 at 08:40 PM.
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March 2nd, 2008
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No I just buy pool filter sand. It would have to be pretty much to a uniform standard I would think to be used in swimming pool filters without harming them.
Carol
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March 2nd, 2008
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The caribsea stuff should be alright. I went to the page and didn't see anything saying not to use with burrowing fish. I'm guessing that someone took it out when they realized their mistake.
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March 2nd, 2008
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I have used several Caribsea products but not that one in particular, thats why I wondered why that warning was on the bag.
carol
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March 2nd, 2008
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i checked the caribsea website and they have a handy dandy chart that tells you not to use their sands with burrowers. it says that the gravel they have is burrower safe but the sand isn't, which is the opposite of what everything i've read says. i've been told that the finer the substrate, the better.
http://www.caribsea.com/pages/products/super_nat.html |
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March 2nd, 2008
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There actually isn't a warning on the bag (at least not the bag that I have). There is the CaribSea logo, "Tahitian Moon," "pre-washed, safe for saltwater or freshwater" and that's about it. Pretty simple bag, and no warning. I think the warning was on the website itself, and I think it was there mistakenly. Maybe whoever wrote it was thinking of certain bottom-feeders that live in rocky areas. These are fish that might not have body mechanisms meant to keep sand from causing harm.
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March 2nd, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol
There actually isn't a warning on the bag (at least not the bag that I have). There is the CaribSea logo, "Tahitian Moon," "pre-washed, safe for saltwater or freshwater" and that's about it. Pretty simple bag, and no warning. I think the warning was on the website itself, and I think it was there mistakenly. Maybe whoever wrote it was thinking of certain bottom-feeders that live in rocky areas. These are fish that might not have body mechanisms meant to keep sand from causing harm.
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I was just wondering because Monkeyfish's first post said on the package 
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March 2nd, 2008
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i dont know if its actually on the package, i just said that because that's what i saw on the website. not that it really matters where the warning is, i just wanted to be safe. sorry for the confusion
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March 2nd, 2008
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No, it's actually a really good question. I wonder if they've had problems with the sand shifting under a decoration, trapping a burrowing fish...
I really don't know.
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March 2nd, 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyfish
i dont know if its actually on the package, i just said that because that's what i saw on the website. not that it really matters where the warning is, i just wanted to be safe. sorry for the confusion
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No problem the only thing I can think of is that it might be so light that it's hard for them to sift through. I ran across this thread at loaches.com http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic....tian+moon+sand
Carol
Last edited by Butterfly; March 2nd, 2008 at 07:35 PM.
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