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October 29th, 2009
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| Jd Floating
last night i feed my jds green peas. come home from work all three of them were just chilling at the top of the water one was neer the filter outlet and the other one was next to a heater and then the thrid(this poor guy) was at the surface just hanging out i dont think this is normal...... i put my hand in to see if the would move then sure as heck did. Then 2 min later they were in the same spots. can some one tell me if this is normal. nitrates 10 nitrites .5 amonia .5 pH 7.0  I've edited your post. Fish Forum Rules #2
Thanks!
Ken
Last edited by aquarist48; October 30th, 2009 at 04:22 AM.
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October 29th, 2009
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| I'm not sure if you your aquarium is correct but your tank is over stocked and barely being cycled. Have you been doing daily w/cs? They might also be hanging out on the top b/c of oxygen deficiency. | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| over stocked 55 gal with 3 JD and 9 tiger babrs? i have an air pump hooked up and yes i did water changes everyday till the begining of this week i was starting to do them 1 every two day | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| What kind of filter are you using and have you cleaned it lately? | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| yes i cleaned the filter sunday but i have a aquatech 300 GPH 30-60 gall capacity | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| If you have nitrites then you havent finished your cycle. I would suggest you do a 50% WC and dose with prime to detox the nitrites. It is also toxic to them....
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October 29th, 2009
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| Did you clean it with tap water? Since your over stocked you should get a more powerful filter since 1 Jack Dempsey can be in a minimum of at least 50 gallons but you have 3 and tiger barbs! | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| 76 i ran out of prime will amquel plus work? | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| amquel plus will work, except you need to dose more with amquel plus than prime. My dad uses it on the 40 gallon. | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| you keep saying over stocked...... how do you come up with that one? my buddy has 4 oscar 1 pleco and 2 firemouths in his 55 but his tank is working perfectly fine and hes doin water change 1 time a week | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| b/c it is. They're doing fine at the moment but they're really stunting their growth. If your buddy has a common pleco which grows to about 18" eventually things will start happening to the fish. I'm just giving you advice since you asked for help. If you have any problems with that just let me know I'll stop. Remember to research, it's really inhumane to keep fish in not an appropriate tank. | |
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October 29th, 2009
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| oh no dont get me wrong i appreciate the help and thats y i asked but i have read in places saying 1 jd can live in a 20 gal healthy
Last edited by Camacho; October 29th, 2009 at 07:14 PM.
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October 30th, 2009
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| Hello Camacho. Sorry to hear your fish aren't feeling up to par. I agree with Tony. Since you are showing ammonia in your readings I suggest daily 30 to 50% water changes and use the Amquel + or Prime. Note: should you use the Amquel + you may still get a positive reading for ammonia but it won't be toxic for the 24 hours until you do the next water change. Keep up with your changes until you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites and under 20 nitrates.
As for stocking your tank, remember to take into consideration the adult size of your fish.
Best wishes!
Ken | |
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October 30th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| you really need to get some prime as amquel+ will do nothing for nitrites which could be as dangerous as ammonia....I also would keep up with the daily water changes as jd's hanging out at the top, is definitely not normal... | |
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October 30th, 2009
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| thanks for all the help. last night when i got home from work the jd's were acting normal again. i did a 30% water change and put all the decor back in after i cleaned it with used tank water. i used amquil + too and used double dosage till i get prime witch will prob be tomorrow.when i woke up befor i went to work i too a quick peek at the fish and they were doing just fine sleeping lol then went to work...(i have 2 full time jobs) after leaving work ran home and checked on the babys they were having a ball weeving in and out of the decorations. i went to the pet store and picked up another aquatech 30-60 gal 330 gph filter and will install it when i leave work tonight. sorry for the story... also i have a question the box says that the filter is 3 stage. 1 is a blue filter 2 blue filter has a backing with activated carbon... dont know how to use the carbon part. 3 bio-fiber mesh it "says never needs to be replaced helps eliminate amonia and nirites" how do i clean the bio-filter and "activate" the carbon? and eiginh thanks for the linxs i read them all and i will try and get rid of 2 of my jd's asap i almost forgot i pick another airstone 
Last edited by Camacho; October 30th, 2009 at 05:03 PM.
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October 30th, 2009
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| You don't have to get rid of them! Just get a bigger tank! that way you can start your MTS  The carbon is already activated once you put it in, some people don't even use carbon in their filters unless they want to filter out medication they put in the tank. The mesh is probably used for bacteria build up hence it's telling you not to throw away. To clean the bio-filter use tap water to clean it out as well as with the mesh in case it gets too clogged. 3 stage = mechanical, chemical, biological. What kind of filter are you using?
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October 30th, 2009
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| the filter is call aquatech rated 30-60 gall w/ 330gph 3 stage and thats pretty much all it says on it.... the same with the filter its self on the box it says aquatech 30-60 gall one side is a blue color and the reverse side has the carbon heres a link if you wanna look at it http://www.aqua-tech.biz/sites/aquat...r=id&itemid=56
Last edited by Camacho; October 30th, 2009 at 06:50 PM.
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October 31st, 2009
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| well i installed another filter and i havnt seen anything different. now i have 2 aquatech 30-60 gall with 330gph. my water is still cloudy and if i look at the water from the side of the tank i cant see the other side. i can only see to the middle if that any way to cure that | |
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November 2nd, 2009
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| What kind of cloudiness? Green,Brown,White? Have you been doing daily w/cs? | |
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November 3rd, 2009
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| the cloudyness is white almost like a fog color i did a 50% water change and 50% went away now i can see to the other end neer the begining of the dec on the other side. i think i just started a mini nitrogen cycle is that possable when doin 50% water change. also i went to my local pet shop and they said that 25 daily water change is really bad for the tank cause its not letting the water establish with good bacteria. nirites 0 nitrates 0 amonia is .50-1.0 PPM i think there is something wrong with my kit that really doesnt look right. also what is better when adding new water to my tank as a water treatment. i have prime, amquil +, stress zyme and stress coat and i almost forgot today when i looked at my JD's they had black rings around there eyes and last night i saw them yawning? normal or not | |
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November 4th, 2009
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| Not too sure about the yawning but Prime and Amquel + works good as well as adding stress coat. Don't add prime and amquel+ together. I prefer Prime b/c you dose less. I think you are going through a mini cycle. keep up with the w/c's | |
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November 4th, 2009
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| def am and i talk to shawnie and she said to start doin 30% water changes so the amonia will go down to 0 so i will start that asap and keep up with it till i see 0 amonia cause i already got 0 nitriteslol 1 down 1 to go i guess | |
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November 4th, 2009
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| I didn't understand that clearly so you have 1 ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrates? | |
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November 4th, 2009
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| no sorry .25-.5 amonia 0 nirtites and 5-10ppm nitrates | |
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November 5th, 2009
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| that's good, keep up with the w/cs and voila! tank is back to normal Good luck!
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November 5th, 2009
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| there doing awsome eating flakes, and green beans, and oh boy do they love blood worms still too small for my floating pellets i bought the med size one and it doesnt fit in there mouths its funny watchin them try n eat it thoe.
What Does voila mean?
also idk if you can help me out i did a 30% water change last and i sucked up something white n fluffy kinda looked like the ends of a Q-TIP do you have any idea what that could be? | |
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November 5th, 2009
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| "Voila" is an expression for satisfaction after accomplishing something. Usually used in cooking shows when they say how easy it is to make cookies and when it's done they say "...voila! and now it's ready to be eaten..." LOL
Can't tell without a picture but does it look like this image? | |
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November 5th, 2009
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| ohhh lmao.
no its not like that umm hmm let me see if i can find a pic online somewere | |
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