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Old October 21st, 2009  
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Hello Jackie. Maybe Walmart will let you exchange them for other fish or give you store credit. Take your receipt if you have it.
Best of luck.
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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Okay gang, here's the latest. Walmart refused to take them back without a receipt (which I naturally lost). They refused to take them back even though I didn't want any credit for them. So I got the heater and I'm going to keep the tank at a constant 80. (Last night by the way my goldfish tank reached 82!!!)

Oh, I tested for amonia using what I think is a high quality tester (API Amonia test kit) and it came back 0.25. So I think that's low enough where it won't hurt my goldfish. But please let me know immediately if I'm wrong. I want these guys to pull through (well Molly's a girl) if they can.
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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Hi Jackie. So sorry that you're having trouble with temperature. There shouldn't be any ammonia in the water. Even a bit of ammonia can be very harmful for your fish. Members would suggest to use a bottle of prime and do daily water changes. Best of luck!
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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If you want to give the goldies away and get different, smaller fish, I have a couple of suggestions: see if a local fish store in your area will take them. It's unlikely they will give you credit towards another fish, but it never hurts to ask. All of the LFS's in my area will take your fish if you aren't able to keep them. Or post on craigslist - maybe someone with a big tank or pond can take them off your hands.

If you decide to keep them, good luck! And my understanding is that they are good with a wide range of temperature, up to 90 degrees, so I think your 82 is fine for them. And know that 30 gallon minimum is recommended for 2 goldfish, so you may want to plan a bigger tank into your budget within the next few months (I assume they are tiny right now). And they produce a lot of waste, so you'll have to get an appropriate filter.

.25 ammonia doesn't sound like much, but it is. Fish can get ammonia poisoning. I think mine started to get it, because their gills turned red. You'll need to put in smething to detoxify the ammonia (Prime detoxifies it for 24 hours at a time) and do a water change. The suggestion people here make is to do this every day until you have no ammonia or nitrite readings, and your tank cycles.

I did it for two days, and then I went and got a bottle of Tetra Safe Start and poured that in instead. The red is gone and the fish are doing so much better, seem much happier.

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Old October 21st, 2009  
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More bad news gang ...

I finally got the temperature steady but I was observing Goldie (a common feeder goldfish, but my daughter fell in love with him) and I saw some small white patches on him. The patches are very small, white and fluffy and I'm sure it means an infection of some kind.

After doing some research I think it's a fungus infection. I'm going to try and get some ICH medicine but somehow I don't hold out much hope for Goldie. My Black Moor Molly on the other hand has no white patches so there may still be hope for her. I want to react quickly to protect her.

So it's fuzzy coat fingus right? Will ich medication take care of it? And no I don't have a quarantine tank.

Who'd guess that fish aquarium keeping would be so hard?
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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Are you able to take a picture and post it? I think Ich looks like salt on the fish. If it is Ich, the members here recommend not medicating the fish, but instead raising the tank temp. to 84 and leaving it there for 2 weeks. A couple of times a week, vaccuum the gravel to remove Ich spores. I've read where aquarist48 (Ken) says that Ich can only survive in up to 82 degrees, and the 84 for 2 weeks kills the disease.

Walmart doesn't take good care of their fish, and I think the fish don't start out very healthy. I would suggest you not get more fish from there.
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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If it is Ich, the members here recommend not medicating the fish, but instead raising the tank temp. to 84 and leaving it there for 2 weeks. A couple of times a week, vaccuum the gravel to remove Ich spores. I've read where aquarist48 (Ken) says that Ich can only survive in up to 82 degrees, and the 84 for 2 weeks kills the disease.

Walmart doesn't take good care of their fish, and I think the fish don't start out very healthy. I would suggest you not get more fish from there.
I don't think it's Ich. I remember what Ich looks like from my childhood aquariums (Like salt sprinkled on fish, right?) No these are small white patches on the left hand side of the fish. The patches are on it's fin and the top portion of his body. At first I thought it was simply mild discoloration. (I first noticed it yesterday.) But they've gotten bigger. I'm sort of seeing him as a goner now and concentrating on the Moor. I don't want her to catch it too ...

And you're right about Walmart. I will NEVER go to them for fish again. What should I do. I hope you don't think this is terrible but I'm thinking a little bit about humane enuthiasm. Certianly no fish store is going to take him now ...and I want to save my Moor.

Last edited by Jackie Frost; October 21st, 2009 at 05:46 PM.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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I'm sorry I missed this thread yesterday - it was a very busy day for me.

Anyway - sorry to hear your goldies aren't feeling well. The white patch may also be a burn. You say you put a heater in the tank - do the goldies swim by it? I had an issue with sunburn in my pond last summer and it is white patches that look kind of fuzzy. Goldies can handle a temperature change from 68 - 90 in one day. The larger the volume of water they are in, the less the temperature will change each day. Since you don't have a larger tank right now, you might be able to insulate your current tank somewhat. Get one of those el-cheapo styrofoam coolers from WalMart (or where ever) and cut it to fit around your tank. Or get some sheets of stryofoam (or other foam type material) from a craft store. Fit them around the back and sides of the tank to help insulate it from the changing temps in the room. That should help to stabilize the temp a bit. Pics of the injury/infection would definitely be helpful to identify it. Attached is a pic of one of my sunburned fishies. All healed up with no medications - just some added shade.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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Unfortunately I can't take pics. My camera broke a long time ago.

Goldie died by the way. He was a cheap feeder goldfish that my daughter insisted we get for our tank, but I feel bad about it anyway. At least he had a large roomy aquarium to play in before he expired (compared to the Walmart tanks.)

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The white patch may also be a burn. You say you put a heater in the tank - do the goldies swim by it? I had an issue with sunburn in my pond last summer and it is white patches that look kind of fuzzy.

That's possible. The moment I put the heater in the tank both fish swam up to it and (kissed?) it being curious. I think I first saw the white patches before I installed the heater, though I'm not totally sure of that. I honestly can't remember.

Molly my Black Moor fish seems to be doing fine. Now I have to decide what my next step should be as regards to the tank.
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