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Old April 16th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
To Hot.........

Hi....,

My freshwater tank temperature in the morning is 30-31 C...Though the fishes can adapt, I think It's to hot. I want to aim 26 C..I try to use fan blowing air directly on the water surface but only lower 1-2 C & losing lots of water because evaporation..chiller is expensive solution..Is there any other solution in the cheaper way?

Thanks,
Jemmy
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Old April 16th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
what is the temperature of the room that the tank is in?
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Old April 16th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
room temperature 30C - 32C
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Old April 16th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i googled for an answer, and it seems as tho most of the answers consisted of blowing a fan on the surface of the water, pointing a fan 'at' the tank, and/or chilling/freezing bottles of water that you could float in the tank to cool it down.

what is the size of the tank in question? if its a large tank i would try the floating bottles suggestion. it doesnt seem like you need to drop your temperature to much, id say 3C would be nice, but 2C would be tolerable. i would try filling a bottle with your coldest tapwater and let it float in your tank for a few hours, after cleaning the bottle well with bleach or vinegar, not both tho!

i would keep a record of what the tank temperature is and the room temperature every hour. once the tank stops cooling down, you will know how long the bottle is good for and you could make any adjustments you might need based off that record, like if you need to add a second bottle or something.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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A method which I found to work for me, is using PWCs. My source water (well-water) is at around 10 degrees C, so if I replace enough water, the temperature will go down.

Otherwise you can try filling up a bottle with ice water and sinking it in. Make sure the bottle is sealed, DONT let waters mix.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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thanks Namehater..I would try freezing bottles and make the record. The tank size 100cm x 40cm x 50cm about 200 ltrs..
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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Llama..what is PWCs ?
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Old April 16th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i think he means "partial water changes". i wouldnt suggest that because you will spent a ton of money on conditioning that much water.

if you do try the bottle method, make sure you keep your water an inch or so low because the bottles with sink and displace the water possibly making it overflow.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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OK..I'll start "freezing bottles" tomorrow.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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Your tank temperature will not stay any lower than your room temperature. I don't know how your tank is set up but is there a way you can position the lighting so it's raised a couple inches above the tank and not sitting directly on it? Too, of course, turn your heater down. As for my tanks, as it gets warmer outside, I turn my heaters down yet maintaining 78 degrees. Good luck!
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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If the heater is set at a lower temperature it should go off when the water gets above what it's set at. With temps that high extra aeration will be needed to add oxygen to the water. Bubbler(s) are the most common way of doing this.
What kind of fish are in the tank? The requirements of the tank inhabitants depend on whether you even need to worry about the tank temp
carol

Last edited by Butterfly; April 16th, 2009 at 06:18 AM.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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It's a community tank : 10 rummy noses, 2 congo tetras, 8 albino cory, 3 bloodfins, 5 columbian tetras, 2 golden wonders, 3 albino paradises, 1 red tail shark, 1 penguin tetra, 1 discuss, 1 flame gourami..the lighting is very dim only 2x11Watt fluorescent bulb 10cm above water surface.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aquarist48 View Post
Your tank temperature will not stay any lower than your room temperature.
That's not exactly true. Water is hard to heat up and cool (4200 J/KgK), so it might be a few degrees lower or higher than the rest of the room, depending on whether its cooling or heating.
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Old April 16th, 2009  
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I see your point
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
also, you probably will want to put the water bottles into a plastic bag before you float them so that the sudden temperature change doesn't shock your fish
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i just thought about something...

if you could fit your bottle into your filtration unit, that would probably be about the best way to achieve a gradual temp change.
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Old April 17th, 2009  
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I'll put the bottles in filtering chamber. is it kill the bacteria?
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Old April 17th, 2009  
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i dont think it will kill the bacteria, lower temperatures will make them slow down a little, but you shouldnt have any problems
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
here is the result.
room temp = 30C
water volume = 160 ltrs
water temp = 28C
add bottle contain freezing water = 2.5 ltrs
30 minutes water temp = 27C
60 minutes water temp = 26.5C
90 minutes water temp = 27C
120 minutes water temp = 27C
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Old April 17th, 2009  
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not bad considering your goal was 26C
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
after 2 hrs temperature raise up again, so i've to replace the bottles every 2 hrs..need extra effort.
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
the ice was totally melted after only 2hrs?
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
yes totally melted.
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Is this the tank with the Cardinals in it?
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
No cardinals are in another tank.
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Old April 17th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Just wondering as they won't spawn in temps that high. It needs to be around 70-75
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