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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Moor eye problem and tank problem

I am having a problem with one of my Moors eye. There seems to be which looks like a bubble on the corner of his eye. He is in there with an Oranda and a Pearlscale in a 56 Gallon Tank. I don't know what to do from here.


also this tank has cloudy, foggy water. I have changed twice not to long ago within 2 weeks to change 1/3 of the water. I also changed the filters and it will just not clear up. please help


thank you very much for your help and comments


High201
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Welcome to Fishlore. Do you know about the nitrogen cycle? how old is the tank? what are your water parameters? these questions might help us know what could be wrong with your goldy.
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Old October 15th, 2009  
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the tank has been set up for about 2 years, i am going to get a kit tonight and will let you know the water parameters later.

the water has been clear up to this point.

thanks
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Maybe you were going through a mini cycle... or had some sort of algae bloom
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
If you changed the filter for a new one I think you just restarted your cycle... :-x What color is your foggy/cloudy water?
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Old October 15th, 2009  
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thanks for your help, the color is white/gray.
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Because the Moor's eye sticks out, it is prone to getting bumped and injured. What type of decorations are in the tank? I agree that you may be going through a mini-cycle from changing out the filter. It is usually a good idea to put the new filter in the tank for a week or so before you change it - this gives the good bacteria a chance to become established in the new filter and can help avoid a mini-cycle. You have three goldie's in the tank? Are there any other fish in the tank? What size is the tank? Just as a guideline, for three fancy goldies, you should have (at the very least) a 40 gallon tank. Larger is always better and a 55 gallon would be okay for the long term. Sometimes, a tank will be clear for several months - a couple of years and finally the fish in it will grow just large enough to overwhelm the current setup with ammonia. That may be what happened. For now, I would suggest doing daily partial water changes with Prime (or another water conditioner) to help protect the fishies and get you through the possible mini-cycle. Good, clean, clear water should also help the Moor's eye heal. Generally, the goldies that have protruding eyes do best with only silk plants and smooth, rounded decorations. Their eye sight is not all that good, and it is very easy for them to bump into stuff and injure their eyes.

Keep us posted, and pics are always welcome!
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
What kind of water conditioner are you using? I think the cloudiness/fog is coming from your tap water.
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
thanks for all your help. the water conditioner is tetra aqua safe.

what about tetras water clarifier. is this any good to use to clear up the water?

thanks
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Old October 15th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I would stay away from chemichals, thats the very last thing you need. The water will clear eventually, if not, then you could add activated carbon to clear the water, but only as a last resource. I am not sure if it will mess with a cycle.
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Old October 15th, 2009  
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It is always better to try to solve the cause of the problem rather than just treat the symptom. The water clarifiers basically cause the stuff in the water to clump together so the filter will catch it, thus treating the symptom. If the cause is too much ammonia and all the good bacteria taken out or dying off, then you need to re-establish the cycle. If you still have a problem with high ammonia, there is a product called zeolite that absorbs ammonia and can help to control it.
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