charzar-g

Title says all - we're getting a pond (our whole garden is being redone WHOO) And we've getting a pond, and I don't want anything fancy, but I love the charm of the goldfish with googley eyes, like blackmoors (but not black because you wouldn't see it in the pond)

Tony G.

Hi
IMO you can keep fancies in a pond ( moors included) just make sure there arent any sharp rocks withing the the pond's wall, to not cause any punctures in their eyes. They have some called celestial eyes, they have bubble like cheeks

There are species of Moors that arent black (not sure of their name) but they are very pretty

CHoffman

I'm not a goldfish expert. But I did end up with some black moor's once..lol..(gotta love grandma). I've read where goldfish with the telecscoping eyes can go in ponds but you shouldn't put them with regular goldfish or any other fish that are aggressive eaters because their vision isn't the greatest and they have to hunt for their food. There are a good amount of members that keep goldfish so I'm sure you'll have some experienced member come along shortly. Good luck with your pond. We want pics ya know.

Tony G.

very true, dont keep them with commons or koi's. They have been known to eat their eyes 9 graphic, sorry)
this happened to my friend, so if you decide to keep them make sure you keep them with slow goldfish, like Ranchu's and ORandas and Ryukins

MissMTS

I wouldn't put telescope eye goldies in ponds. They are much more fragile than the other fancies. The bubble eyes make them much more prone to infection. Orandas, Ryukins, Lionheads, Pearlscale, and Fantail are all fine.

I read an article on this a while ago, and I'll see if I can dig it up. It's very informative

joy1125

I agree, telescopes really shouldn't go into a pond. Craggy rocks and other pond items could snag their delicate eye sacs.

As far as the other fancies go, they'll be fine, but will you be wintering your fish in the pond ? How cold do your winters get? Fancies aren't as winter hardy as commons and koi are, and many pond owners take their fancies inside for the winter.

If that's the case, you'd need to have a large aquarium (quite possibly a very large aquarium) to accomodate the number of fancies in your pond for the winter.

But if you don't want to worry about taking fish in over the winter, I suggest getting koi and comet goldfish. They'll survive year after year of very cold winters; they go down to the bottom, and into a type of hibernation state, much like bears. (you do not feed them after the first frost!) If the pond ices, just make sure to have a hole in the center, to allow for air. (how deep will your pond be?)

Also, in addition to being beautiful large fish, koi and comets make great pets ! They'll interact with you, and even feed right from your hand.

charzar-g

Just to clear it up I meant this type:

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/NFI2211.jpg

NOT this type:

http://www.qyhongda.com/photo/CTY/6ctyxq.jpg

I don't know the difference sorry, I would only have two in the pond which will be quite large (not sure yet, becuase its got to fit in a gap made by a veranda thingy my parents are going to build) I didn't think people PUT rocks in a pond, around it maybe. But it will only have plants and stuff. And yes, they would be brought in for winter

gremlin

The fish in your first pic is a black moor - the fish in your second pic is a celestial goldfish. Any of the fancy goldfish that have protruding eyes are really not good for in a pond. They cannot see as well as goldfish with "normal" eyes and their eye sacs are prone to injury and infections. Even bumping into a plant stem can cause problems. I would recommend the not quite so fancy goldfish. If you like the look of the fancies with their egg-shaped bodies, you could go with oranda, ryunkin, or veil-tail goldies. Or, you could go with a couple of comets, commons, or shubunkins. Just make sure that you do not combine the two body types. The goldies with the egg-shaped bodies do not swim as fast or as well as the comets/commons/shubunkins. They would not be able to compete for their share of the food as well.

As for rocks in the pond, my goldies love to swim around the rock shelves I have in my pond. I have them set up like caves and the goldies swim in and out of them all the time. It also gives a place to anchor "bog" plants or shallow water plants if you wish to have them in your pond.

charzar-g

ah cool thanks - I might after all go with shubunkins, my art teacher has those, and she got babies!