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October 24th, 2007
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| | Fish Master
| Oh, Barbrella, you're full of striking examples, LOL! The MIL is definitely one I can use!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbrella  There's a big difference between surviving and thriving.
We could survive living in a tiny cell our whole lives if it were kept clean and we had food, but we wouldn't be happy or thrive.
We're obligated to give any creatures we bring home the best lives we possibly can.
Anyone who has watched fish ( goldfish, bettas etc) in a tiny, bare, cramped space, then seen them in a large, decorated aquarium can clearly see where they're happier.
Right. My mother in law is 87. She has been smoking for 70 years, never eats vegetables and loves to eat fat. Just because she lived this long does not mean this is a recommended lifestyle for long life and good health!  | | 
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October 24th, 2007
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| | Moderator
| I'm amused that your parents are willing to claim to know a bunch of people whose goldfish have impossibly survived a huge buildup of waste and mineral in a tiny bowl, yet won't accept more scientifically sound, believable statements.
In the end it sounds like, unless they can be made to care about the psychological wellness of their fish (and it sounds like your parents see animals as "things" rather than "beings"), this is going to be an impossible fight.
I will, however, be trying to get more scientific info. | |
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October 25th, 2007
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| | Fish Mentor
| "Thank you, Gremlin. That sort of examples will really help make my point."
no prob - glad to help any way I can | 
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October 26th, 2007
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| | Fish Master
| Well they're not claiming it, it's true. It's my cousin. She's had hers for ages, in those conditions, and she brags to my parents about how little water changes she gives it. Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol I'm amused that your parents are willing to claim to know a bunch of people whose goldfish have impossibly survived a huge buildup of waste and mineral in a tiny bowl, yet won't accept more scientifically sound, believable statements.
In the end it sounds like, unless they can be made to care about the psychological wellness of their fish (and it sounds like your parents see animals as "things" rather than "beings"), this is going to be an impossible fight.
I will, however, be trying to get more scientific info. | | |
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October 26th, 2007
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| | Fish Mentor
| "Well they're not claiming it, it's true. It's my cousin. She's had hers for ages, in those conditions, and she brags to my parents about how little water changes she gives it."
so it may be low maintenance, but does the fish swim around and is it entertaining or does it just sort of sit there like a picture? | |
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October 27th, 2007
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| | Fish Master
| Well this is the claiming part. They claim that its' really happy. I presume that means swimming round. But I haven't seen it with my own eyes. | |
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October 27th, 2007
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| | Fish Helper
| This is mad.... Have you had any luck in the way of convincing them to get a bigger tank yet? | |
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October 28th, 2007
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| | Fish Master
| Mmmmh. Difficult to say. I think I got through to my mom, but she tends to change her mind. Am going over there next week-end to check the situation. | |
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