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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
Questions, questions, and more questions.

I'm at the point where WC's just aren't working. I need a good algae eating organism. The most important thing is that it needs to stay fairly small, doesn't require being kept in groups, and it's not aggressive. This algae is over running my tank. It's overtaking my Java Moss and Java Ferns.

Which brings me to my other question. My Java Fern now is over 8"+! How do I trim this thing without harming it?

Also, does anyone have the link to a DIY flow adjuster? I've looked but can't find anything.


* EDIT: Sorry guys, I mean't to say Java FERN trimmings. Not Java Moss.

Last edited by 10gallonmadness; February 21st, 2010 at 11:52 AM.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Moderator
 
Refresh my memory please what kind of algae do you have?
Carol
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Helper
 
I can't really help you with anything else, but in terms of the algae eater, you could do a bristlenose pleco, siamese algae eater, or a butterfly loach. There are more but those are the ones that I know of that stay relatively small.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
Ottos eat some algae and stay pretty small, you could get 2 of them. My first thought was shrimp but they would most likely become lunch in your tank.

Good Luck
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
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Refresh my memory please what kind of algae do you have?
Carol
Oh Jeez. It's like a mix. Brown and green. TBH I really don't know the species and classes of Algae.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
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Since the 10g has a betta, 2 danios and 4 glo light tetras just about anything besides an Oto or two is going to be too big.

I have added Flourish Excel to my tanks in the past to get rid of algae. It makes the nutrients more available for your plants to use thus starving the algae.
have you tested your tap water for Nitrates?
Carol
The brown is probably diatoms and will go away by it's self. here are a few pics of algae
http://www.plantgeek.net/article_viewer.php?id=9

Last edited by Butterfly; February 21st, 2010 at 11:58 AM. Reason: to add info
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
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Since the 10g has a betta, 2 danios and 4 glo light tetras just about anything besides an Oto or two is going to be too big.

I have added Flourish Excel to my tanks in the past to get rid of algae. It makes the nutrients more available for your plants to use thus starving the algae.
have you tested your tap water for Nitrates?
Carol
The brown is probably diatoms and will go away by it's self. here are a few pics of algae
http://www.plantgeek.net/article_viewer.php?id=9
The Betta is in his own tank now. I forgot to update the tank info.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Addict
 
I agree redlessi 2 otos would be a good option for a small algae eater. As for the moss, you can usually just pull out what you don't want with your hands. Good luck with the flow adjuster not sure what to do there.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
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The Betta is in his own tank now. I forgot to update the tank info.
Good move Then a couple of Otos would be ideal. Since everything else gets a bit bigger they will contribute more waste and nutrients than they would be cleaning up
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
I'm thinking 3 Otto's... sound good?

It appears I have Spot Algae, Brown Algae, and a bit of Slime Algae.

Last edited by Lucy; February 21st, 2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason: merged posts, you can use the edit button to add to a post :)
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Addict
 
Try putting a sponge or filter material over your intake. That might help to slow down the flow rate if you need too.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
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Which tank are you trying to slow the flow down in? the betta tank or the other one.
Here are some suggestions
How To: Slow Down Current From A Filter
I've also see a soda bottle cut long ways and affixed to the out flow of the filter so it flows into the soda bottle and overflows into the the tank making it a gentler more difused flow.
You might find some more in the DIY forum
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
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Which tank are you trying to slow the flow down in? the betta tank or the other one.
Here are some suggestions
How To: Slow Down Current From A Filter
I've also see a soda bottle cut long ways and affixed to the out flow of the filter so it flows into the soda bottle and overflows into the the tank making it a gentler more difused flow.
You might find some more in the DIY forum
Carol
The Betta tank and I like the soda bottle idea.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
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cool
I don't mean to be annoying but, could you please be more specific for the soda bottle idea? Sorry to be a nuisance but when you say longways what do you mean by that?
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Old February 21st, 2010  
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np, your not in the least annoying. Here are some pics to demonstrate what I mean.
1) cut off top (2 liter coke bottle)
2) cut off the bottom
3) cut up both sides
4)take one side and affix to the back of the over flow(cut to fit filter over flow)
5) allows water to run out each end of the plastic instead in a hard flow straight out of the filter
Carol
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
np, your not in the least annoying. Here are some pics to demonstrate what I mean.
1) cut off top (2 liter coke bottle)
2) cut off the bottom
3) cut up both sides
4)take one side and affix to the back of the over flow(cut to fit filter over flow)
5) allows water to run out each end of the plastic instead in a hard flow straight out of the filter
Carol
Thanks Butterfly!


Well I have just got back from my LFS and I bought 2 Otto's and a new Gravel Vac siphon. The Otto's are currently acclimating to my 10G. I'm gonna have to stay on top of my WC's for the first few months now.
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Old February 21st, 2010  
Fish Mentor
 
I suggest some horned nerite snails or Amano shrimp to tackle any algae on plant leaves that the otos are too large to get. I was also going to suggest the larger zebra nerites, but it seems that the otos are covering their job.
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