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Old January 31st, 2010  
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new cycled 38 gallon aquarium

hi I have an new aquarium set up Its 36x12x21 I have in it 5 Danios 2 swordtails, 2 white skirt tetra and 2 small angelfish. I am a new owner and would like to know if I have to many fish in it? I have cycled it for a week fishless. thanks Dave.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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What kind of pleco do you have? Imo, that would determine if you're over stocked or not.

I'm afraid that your tank isn't truly cycled. A week is pretty quick.
Did you use old filter media or some source of ammonia?
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Welcome to FishLore!!
What kind of pleco do you have? Imo, that would determine if you're over stocked or not.

I'm afraid that your tank isn't truly cycled. A week is pretty quick.
Did you use old filter media or some source of ammonia?
Hi, its a common pleco I found out I got him to early cause there is no algoe in my tank yet so I got him some food. when cycle my tank I just filled it with treated water and ran everything for a week. it went cloudy for a couple days than cleared up. soon after Double checked my temp and added the fish they seem to be doing ok so far.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Imo, your pleco is what makes the tank overstocked. They get really big and produce tons of waste. He should be in a 55g.
Here's the profile on the common pleco.
I'm glad you got him some wafers. I'm pretty sure they can't live on algea alone

Running the filter for a week with out a source of ammonia will not cycle your tank.
Cycling can take a month, give or take a couple of weeks. In order for the bacteria (that sustains your tank) to grow, there needs to be a source of ammonia.

Here's a basic explanation of the nitrogen cycle:
First your ammonia (from fish waste and left over food) will rise.
In a few weeks bacteria will start to develop and you'll see the nitrite levels rise and the ammonia levels start to drop.
After a few more weeks a different kind of bacteria begins to develop and you'll see the nitrate levels rise and the nitrite levels drop.
Ammonia and nitrites are toxic to your fish.
So until your cycle is complete, you need to keep the levels down with 50% daily water changes.
If your pH differs greatly from tap to tank 2 25% changes a day would be safer.
Using Prime as your water conditioner will detox the ammonia for 24 hrs between water changes.
When you having readings of 0 on both ammonia and nitrites with some nitrates showing, your cycle is done.

Here's a more detailed explanation of the Nitrogen cycle

If you don't have one already, it would be a good idea to get a liquid test kit. Try to avoid the strips, they're not accurate and more costly in the long run.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Thanks Lucy I guess I got a little too excited so what I am going to do is regular water changes and keep a close eye on everything til my tanks truly cycled. as for the pleco he is really small now but as he grows I will just have to give accomadate him with a bigger aquarium.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Sounds good.
Keep a close eye on the water parameters.
We love pictures, so we hope you'll share some!
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Welcome to FL.

I think your angelfish are not appropriate for a 10 gallon either. 2 angels will fully stock a 20 gallon tall tank. They need a minimum height of 17 inches, or their fins can grow misshapen. I wanted some for my tank (30 gallon long), but didn't get them because my tank is 16 inches tall.

Even though your pleco is small right now, I think you should consider returning him to the store or finding him a new home. He's going to produce enough waste that it will be difficult to get your water parameters steady and cycled, in my opinion.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Hi Meenu my tank is a 38 gallon its 36 long 12 wide and 21 tall. my pleco is just a baby right now and if he gets to big I would make sure I got him a bigger tank thanks.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Welcome to FL.

I think your angelfish are not appropriate for a 10 gallon either. 2 angels will fully stock a 20 gallon tall tank. They need a minimum height of 17 inches, or their fins can grow misshapen. I wanted some for my tank (30 gallon long), but didn't get them because my tank is 16 inches tall.
The tank isn't 10g's, it's 39g....unless I calculated the measurements in the first post wrong.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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Hi Meenu my tank is a 38 gallon its 36 long 12 wide and 21 tall. my pleco is just a baby right now and if he gets to big I would make sure I got him a bigger tank thanks.
I swear, I'm getting senile and I am only 36! I am really sorry. I think I had 2 threads up at the same time, and the other was for a 10.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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I swear, I'm getting senile and I am only 36! I am really sorry. I think I had 2 threads up at the same time, and the other was for a 10.
I've done that too!
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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lol thats ok

I am charging up my camera so I will put some pics up shortly.

Last edited by Lucy; January 31st, 2010 at 12:53 PM. Reason: merged posts
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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I put some pic's up and was wondering if anyone could give my some feedback on them thanks Dave.
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Old January 31st, 2010  
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