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December 4th, 2009
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| I give up.
I give up on fishkeeping. I cant handle it anymore. All the fish in the 10g have died except the cory. Their bellies were sunken inwards and all of them had pop-eye. Seriously, whatever i have tried to do for my fish just never works. My water quality is great yet they still die. The only fish i will ever keep from now on are bettas. They're the only things i manage to keep alive.
Thanks everyone for all the great advise you've given me. Yesterday when i asked about the white stringy poo people gave me great advise yet the recipe lucy gave me didnt even have time to freeze and the fish are dead now. I just give up ya know? i've had enough already.
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December 4th, 2009
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| Whoa, sorry to hear Tony but are you sure you want to give up? Cmon now, you are the boy with dreams of having a billion tanks in your room. You're very enthusiastic with keeping fish and how adorable they are to you. You can't give up now, we all experience these problems...perhaps you want to take a little break after your losses then start up again. Cheer up and feel better! | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Sorry to hear that tony but you'll get through with lots of encouragement from your friends on here. Good luck buddy.
Nick | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Thanks pete, but i just wont get any other type of fish. No matter what species it is they just keep dieing. Its hard on me becuase i see fish after fish pass away. Its from the conditions they were being kept in before they came to be, but its still hard to see them go. I guess its time for me to start rescuing cup babies. i would feel alot better.
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December 4th, 2009
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| I'm really am so sorry to hear your bad news. I honor your willingness to give up, but only authorize you to take a break for a bit!!
Besides being heartbreaking at times, it is also a wee bit of a money pit, keeping tropical fish.
Go with the bettas for a while...maybe try breeding them??
Convert the 10 gallon for betta spawning. Your other tanks are ok. Remember you HAVE, and ARE, contnuing to learn from these experiences. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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|  Tony, I'm so sorry to hear about your fish.
Sadly, if they died so quickly, I doubts meds are anything could have helped.
We all lose fish despite our best efforts.
Maybe sit back, take a breather but don't give up.  | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Tony, I'm so sorry you're going through this . How are your convicts doing? Maybe you're one of those people who does better with cichlids than tropical community 
Hang in there, buddy. You'll get through this and we'll all be here to help you in any way we can.  | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Thanks ted. I dont think i have enough $$$ to breed bettas. it would be awesome, but finding homes and the way they are treated i dont think i will. Right now i'm gonna clean out the 10g and start over. Then i will transfer my Current boy Clayton to it and see if it perks him up a bit. I'm just gonna start collecting bettas. But i'm only gonna get them 10g. I can buy a 10g every friday if my paycheck allows it LOL
I'm just gonna take a break from the other fish. Bettas will keep me happy.
Thanks lucy. Its sad how i didnt catch it earlier...
Thanks BB, the cons are doing great. The girl with the ID problem has begun getting darker stripes, so everything seems to be going better. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Good idea Tony!! To learn to breed Bettas find a nice female and use a divider in the 10 gallon....and you are correct....what to do with all the little ones.
You also may be needing the 10 gallon as a fry tank for convicts!!!! | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| The convicts are F/F LOL it would be weird if i got something from them... LOL
I'm gonna go pick up an extra heater for the current 10g so i can transfer clayton tomorrow once i get the tank cleaned. Thanks everyone for the support, i sure do feel better now. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| I'm sorry to hear about your fish loss. I think even though you feel like giving up fish keeping, it will be very hard to do so after having fish for so many years. Just try to imagine your room with no tanks at all. Maybe you just need a small break, like the others suggested. Whatever you decide to do, I am pretty sure everyone will try to help the best they can. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Thanks. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| *hugs* I'm so sorry, Tony! | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| thanks. I cant wait to rescue some more babies. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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|  I'm sorry Tony. I know how totally heart breaking it is to watch them pass and not be able to help or understand why.
I'm glad you're not giving up altogether. I think you should definitely rescue cup babies.  How's Clayton doing? | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Sorry to hear about that Tony. Very sorry. Losing the fishy-kids is never an easy feeling.
Your into it now though. You have amassed knowledge that you may not have had before, so never give up. Go back to the basics, hearty, easy fish like Betta's are an excellent "back to the drawing board fish." Don't give up Tony, just make a fresh start. | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Thanks shifty, i am going back to bettas. They are easier to look after IMO LOL so perfect for me  | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Tony,
I'm sorry you are going through this...It sure can be heartwrenching at times....Don't give up....Just take it slow and start again.....And hey, nothing wrong with only having Bettas! lol | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| thanks karen. I actually was meaning to talk to you... LOL i will send you a pm | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| my friend...I know MOST of us have been where you are now , and have had the same feelings a few times in our lives....not that your feelings arent worthy, but the love you have for fin babies, would be a sin to the aquatic world for you to give up..theres allot of fish that would love a home with you, not just bettas...although i respect whatever decision you make, remember, there isnt many in this hobby with the passion and respect for fish as you have...
i do not feel that as fast as those fish passed, that you could have stopped it any way you tried....unless you skipped weeks of water changes, and starved them , (which we know that isnt the case) something else had to have happened....remember, many things could have gone wrong and it doesnt meant it was your fault....
goodluck my friend...be strong, and keep doing what you do daily....loving your fish as if they were your own fleshin blood | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Hello Tony.
I'm so sorry that you've lost your fish. As much as you love them I'd hate to see you give up the hobby. It took me many, many years to find fish that are compatible with the water that I have to offer. Not every aquarist is going to be able to keep every species alive.
Find the fish that will adapt to your water. You have to accept the losses along the way and yet take comfort in knowing that you've done the best you could do with what you have to work with. It's all any of us can do Creating a natural environment is impossible so we can only improvise so to speak.
Bettas, if that is the species that you can keep alive then fill the room full! 1 per tank please  (unless you have dividers) There are so many out there that need our TLC
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December 4th, 2009
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| Hi Tony, I am sorry you lost some fishy friends and having a hard time. I agree with others, don't giveup just take a break for awhile.
For Pop-Eye, injury or water quality are the common causes. These are just my thoughts, even though you said your water is 0, 0 and less then 20 doesn't mean eveything is going to be OK. I'm gonna say its possible that your pH is to high. Yes, most fish can adapt to a wide range of pH but that seems awfully high but then your Betta does fine. Keep in mind that different fish are going to react differently to your water quality. Have your tried lowing it to see if that's the problem? driftwood or filter through Peat Moss. Then the temp is 86 in your 10 gallon, any particular reason why it's so high? Usually raising temps for bacteria/fungul infections will help it flourish. Just trying to give you an idea, I hope it helps somewhat my friend.
I went through a rough spot with my Angelfish, they got finrot and it took weeks to get it to go away, I got frustrated and wanted to just take them back to my LFS, but i didn't giveup. Then I found out the pH was too low, my water here is acidic which is great for the fish I have, but being too low can cause problems, like not cycling. It took patients, plus I loved them. My Angels are happy and healthy now. Remember our fish live in an enclosed small environment that we make for them, we can do our maint. but still endup with a few deathes for no reason. They can get sick just like us. I even lost my Pearl Gourmai a few months ago, he started to get thin. A parasite more likely. The tank had 0, 0 and less then 20. Things just sneak in.
Well, not sure why I told you my story, but I hope you feel better. Now, get ready and go rescue a few cup Bettas. 
Last edited by AlyeskaGirl; December 4th, 2009 at 06:28 PM.
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December 4th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Tony G.  I give up on fishkeeping. I cant handle it anymore. . . . . . Seriously, whatever i have tried to do for my fish just never works. | I know how you feel. I have goldfish outside because I can't keep tropicals alive inside. I tried all different types of tetras, platys, swordtails, danios, even guppies. They all died on me. Water parameters all great, temperature fine, everything looking great. The longest I kept them alive inside was 1 month. So, I know how it is. That's why my goldfish are outside. I found what works for me. All you have to do now, is find what works for you. If it is the bettas - go for it! I would love to have a couple of betta tanks, but with my record, I don't dare. Don't forget pics of the new setups with your bettas! | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Oh Tony <GLOMP>
I know exactly how you feel I'm going through a bit of a spell like that with my Betta's to tell the truth. I've lost so many of them since over the summer that it was months before I felt the betta bug bite again... and then one of them passed away before I'd even had them a week and a few days later one of my boys from last year followed .
Don't give up but definitely step back take a deep breathe and go to the basics again. I'm finding that the more trouble my Betta's give me the more goldfish I collect 
Wishing you the best and can't wait to see some pics of the new babies and they're homes | |
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December 4th, 2009
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| Oh Tony you cant give up. What would your fin babies do without you??. You have to know that they definitely have a better life with you than at any fish store. I so love your humor and you have so much character for a young man with so much to give to any fish you decide to take care of. Take a step back and think of all the good you have done for your fish and you will soon be ready to start new again. And that's my  | |
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December 5th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Shawnie my friend...I know MOST of us have been where you are now , and have had the same feelings a few times in our lives....
i do not feel that as fast as those fish passed, that you could have stopped it any way you tried....unless you skipped weeks of water changes, and starved them , (which we know that isnt the case) something else had to have happened....remember, many things could have gone wrong and it doesnt meant it was your fault....
goodluck my friend...be strong, and keep doing what you do daily....loving your fish as if they were your own fleshin blood | Thanks shawnie. They had only been with me for about a week and a half. The female balloon was the one that spread the parasites to the others. Quote:
Originally Posted by aquarist48 Hello Tony.
I'm so sorry that you've lost your fish. As much as you love them I'd hate to see you give up the hobby. It took me many, many years to find fish that are compatible with the water that I have to offer. Not every aquarist is going to be able to keep every species alive.
Bettas, if that is the species that you can keep alive then fill the room full! 1 per tank please (unless you have dividers) There are so many out there that need our TLC
Ken | Thanks ken. I will deffinately do that. If my paycheck allows it, i could get a 5g everyweek imagine what i'll be like in a year! LOL
I intend to have 1 per tank, i can spoil them LOL Quote:
Originally Posted by AlyeskaGirl Hi Tony, I am sorry you lost some fishy friends and having a hard time. I agree with others, don't giveup just take a break for awhile.
For Pop-Eye, injury or water quality are the common causes. These are just my thoughts, even though you said your water is 0, 0 and less then 20 doesn't mean eveything is going to be OK. I'm gonna say its possible that your pH is to high. Yes, most fish can adapt to a wide range of pH but that seems awfully high but then your Betta does fine. Keep in mind that different fish are going to react differently to your water quality. Have your tried lowing it to see if that's the problem? Driftwood or filter through Peat Moss. Then the temp is 86 in your 10 gallon, any particular reason why it's so high? Usually raising temps for bacteria/fungul infections will help it flourish. Just trying to give you an idea, I hope it helps somewhat my friend.
I went through a rough spot with my Angelfish, they got finrot and it took weeks to get it to go away, I got frustrated and wanted to just take them back to my lfs, but i didn't giveup. Then I found out the pH was too low, my water here is acidic which is great for the fish I have, but being too low can cause problems, like not cycling. It took patients, plus I loved them. My Angels are happy and healthy now. Remember our fish live in an enclosed small environment that we make for them, we can do our maint. but still endup with a few deathes for no reason. They can get sick just like us. I even lost my Pearl Gourmai a few months ago, he started to get thin. A parasite more likely. The tank had 0, 0 and less then 20. Things just sneak in.
Well, not sure why I told you my story, but I hope you feel better. Now, get ready and go rescue a few cup Bettas. | Thanks for sharing. My pH is too high, i've tried lowering it with DW before, but it only went down to 8. I suspect that is what is causing all the trouble. I will try and get a different substrate as i suppose that's what's causing it (my gravel is mixed with shells, so i need to change that.) I will go rescue bettas The temp was that high because they were recovering from ICH... i usually kept it at 78* Quote:
Originally Posted by gremlin I know how you feel. I have goldfish outside because I can't keep tropicals alive inside. I tried all different types of tetras, platys, swordtails, danios, even guppies. They all died on me. Water parameters all great, temperature fine, everything looking great. The longest I kept them alive inside was 1 month. So, I know how it is. That's why my goldfish are outside. I found what works for me. All you have to do now, is find what works for you. If it is the bettas - go for it! I would love to have a couple of betta tanks, but with my record, I don't dare. Don't forget pics of the new setups with your bettas! | Thanks gremlin. Your goldies are beautiful, so that means you're doing everything right I cant wait for next friday... payday Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1313 Oh Tony <GLOMP>
I know exactly how you feel I'm going through a bit of a spell like that with my Betta's to tell the truth. I've lost so many of them since over the summer that it was months before I felt the betta bug bite again... and then one of them passed away before I'd even had them a week and a few days later one of my boys from last year followed .
Don't give up but definitely step back take a deep breathe and go to the basics again. I'm finding that the more trouble my Betta's give me the more goldfish I collect
Wishing you the best and can't wait to see some pics of the new babies and they're homes | Oh, sorry for your losses red. Quote:
Originally Posted by redlessi Oh Tony you cant give up. What would your fin babies do without you??. You have to know that they definitely have a better life with you than at any fish store. I so love your humor and you have so much character for a young man with so much to give to any fish you decide to take care of. Take a step back and think of all the good you have done for your fish and you will soon be ready to start new again. And that's my | Thanks reds. | |
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December 5th, 2009
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| Since the last message was so long, i couldnt add smilies to it.
The last survivor has passed. I put him in my now empty 2.5 to quarantine him but he just didnt make it. RIP little cory buddy. | |
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December 5th, 2009
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| Sorry to hear your last buddy didnt make it. 
BTW, we will want to see pictures of every new betta you rescue................. | |
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December 5th, 2009
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| you know i dont hide those LOL | |
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December 5th, 2009
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| I'm so sorry Tony. | |
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