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Old May 8th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
fish tank crisis

i found one of my danios swimming around with a chunk of his belly missing last night and i guessed it was the dirty work of my crayfish. the danio is still alive ans swimming around perfectly.

i need to do something with the crayfish, but i got them from my cousin and he has a 4 gallon tank with 9 crayfish in them. i don't want to give them back because his tank is full of them. it isn't a pretty picture. they are just crammed in there. isn't it 1 crayfish per 10 gallons?

but if i give them to the pet shop he will crack it. but if i give them back to him his tank will be even worse.

what should i do?
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Old May 8th, 2009  
Moderator
 
I'm really sorry your fish was hurt.
Didn't you say they were wild caught? Why don't you return them to where your cousin caught them?
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Old May 8th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i could do that but he caught them from a place that is like 4 hours away from where i live.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Do you have a temporary tank you could put them in? List them on craigslist or freecycle. You should be able to find a good home for them.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
OMG!!! MY BIG BLUE CRAYFISH JUST ATTACKED MY POOR KUHLI LOACH!!! AHHH!! i moved to poor kuhli into my nursery tank for now. the crayfish attacked the kuhli full on just 5 minutes ago, right in front of me. the kuhli is a little ripped apart. it is long and plump, i'm guessing it's a female cause stuff is coming out of a cut and it looks like eggs, tiny greenish eggs.

any way, i'll give the crayfish to my LPS, i don't care what my cousin says, they are out of here. thanks anyway,

lets just hope my kuhli makes it.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Moderator
 
I'm really sorry.
I think in your other thread, it was advised that crayfish eat fish.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Moderator
 
If the crayfish were wild caught...they will eat everything they can get their little claws on. I suggest finding them a new home as well before you lose all of your fish.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
throw it in a creek somewhere lol

Last edited by ifixoldhouses; May 9th, 2009 at 10:48 AM.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Ever have crawdads They go great with ,
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Moderator
 
MizRamzi come on down! LOL
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
my poor kuhlie looks as if it has broken it's spine. when it tries to swim it can only move his head and the front of his body. the poor thing. i am going to take them to my LPS on tuesday, will the be okay in a breeder box 'till then? i have three spare ones.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
i'm sorry to hear that you mean the crayfish in the breeder box? they should be fine for a couple days
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Moderator
 
I hope you got the crayfish out of the community tank asap! If all else fails you can put them in a bucket of tank water. I feel bad for your fish and your kuhli loach.. those poor things.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Tie up the claws like they do at the restaurants! Your tank must be like a UFC ring!

The loach should be put down easy if the damage from the attack is that bad. Watching a fish with a broken spine and stuff oozing out and not doing anything about it is pretty cruel

Last edited by Ricardo_NY1; May 9th, 2009 at 10:00 PM.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I agree with Ricardo. I doubt you can save it, I don't think theres any medicine made for this kind of emergency. I'm not sure what the most humane way to do that is...
You said you have 3 breeder boxes? And three crayfish... I say put them in there until you can get rid of them, but make it as quick as possible.
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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Clove oil+Vodka. UFC tank guy can research it a little when he's ready to apply it.
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
thanks all, i feel really sorry for the kuhli, so i need to put it down? what's the best way? with out making her suffer?
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
i'd observe your kuhli for a day or at least a few hours, if there are no signs of improvement at all, or if she appears extremely listless and worse than today then you may want to put her down. the best way i've heard is with the clove oil and vodka that ricardo suggested. here's a link for you
http://www.oscarfishlover.com/index....Clove-Oil.html

Last edited by agabr123; May 10th, 2009 at 02:22 AM.
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Like Ricardo said, the clove oil and vodka method is considered humane. A quick decapitation is also effective, but should only be attempted if you are SURE you will do it absolutely perfectly on the first try. Personally I would pick clove oil and vodka.
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post

what should i do?
you should listen to the overwhelming amount of peers you had advising you not to keep them together...

im sorry that you have injured fish, but what else did you expect to happen?
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i'll give her 1 week, then i'll make a decision.
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
your fish probably wont make it another week with her
why do you ask for advice and then ignore it and wonder why things go wrong badwolf? I really hope you take them out before the fish are all a meal
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Have you rid the tank yet of the crayfish?
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
i'll give her 1 week, then i'll make a decision.
A week? Bad Wolf, you're already down a danio and a kuhli.
This isn't fair situation for the fish or the cray fish who is doing what comes natural.

Please, do what's right and seperate them. Now.
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
I think he somewhat enjoys the attention received here in respect to his action tank. I'd tell him more about the clove oil and vodka formula but am afraid he might play around with it and put the fish to sleep only to watch them wake up. He's been given good advice from the start. Now he needs to examine his morals and desire to be a responsible pet owner.
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i moved my three crayfish into the breeder boxes. i'm taking them to the pet shop tomoz.
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I know this sounds kind of harsh, forgive me. but we at the LFS us the ** method of putting an ailing fish down. No flushing, that breaks my heart, which is already breaking at the loss of any fish
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Old May 12th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
it's alright now, the poor thing died last night, and now i'm stuck with 3 unwanted crayfish, well not really unwanted, i want them but they are psychopathic.
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Old May 12th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Hi badwolf
You keep saying "crayfish" but I think you mean Yabbie.
Scientific name - Cherax destructor
They dont get that name from being nice . They dont even get along with each and often you will be left with the biggest , meanest one.
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Old May 12th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i call them yabbie time to time, but i strarted calling them crayfish. i don't know why.
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