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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| The fish Gods are mad
I'm thinking I must have made the fish gods mad or something.  ...My plan to get a pair of Angelfish went completely wrong. I bought 6 baby Angelfish and 5 of them didn't make it.  ..It was a awful ordeal and I hated even going to look at the tank because I knew something would be wrong everytime I did. This lasted a couple of days...So just when I think all is well and I can quit being sick to my tummy, I see that one of my ottos have passed.  ..Geeze...The other two are still active and healthy but so was that one. RIP ottos and Angels. Somebody must be mad at me.....I've lost 6 fish in 1 week.  This was just not my week for sure. Have the fish gods ever been mad at you guys?? | 
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| oh no!! i wonder what happened | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| That happened to me & my angels also. I lost 4 in a week. And a gourami.
I was the same way - would get sick to my stomach just to go look at the tank.
It was awfull...then I got ICH.
From bad to worse. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Moderator
| I'm really sorry Cesch, that stinks. I know you probably checked all the usual suspects, ammonia etc..... | 
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper
| i heard that angels can only survive in certain pH conditions. dont know about the rest of your fish tho. unless your angels brought in a disease. when adding new fish do you dump the bag water into your tank after floating them? | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| I’m so sorry for your loss. This is truly a difficult hobby emotionally. Yes the fish gods seem to have it in for me too. Hmmm… I wonder if that’s because I eat so much seafood?  | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| lolol Dozey. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| i'm really sorry to hear that cesch i haven't had many losses so far (since november when i started) but i'm keeping my fingers crossed.....i've gotten lucky, even my very first betta who lived in a goldfish bowl before i knew anything about fish has survived thus far.... | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Thanks guys,
Yeah the water conditions were 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 10 nitrate and 7.4 PH...I think the Angels were just to small and I did call the LFS and they lost all of that shipment so I'm thinking it wouldn't have mattered what I did....I hadn't lost many fish up untill this point but I got my fair share now. I don't think they had a disease just being shipped and then moved to my home was a little to much. Just very disappointing and sad. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Is it something with angels lately? Does anyone know?
Petsmart lost every angel in there shipment that I bought from, and they still don't have any angels. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| hmmmm...makes you wonder..That is allot of fish to be losing..My LFS had 4 tanks full of baby Angles and lost all of them..They sell for 5.99 so that's quite a loss...They were the dime size ones though..The quarter ones sell for 7.99 | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Yeah!
I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong in the angel stock.
Even the angel I bought from my LFS died. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Moderator
| It sure sounds like something went wrong with their shipment.
Doesn't make it any easier, I'm sure.
With so many losing them from different areas, it kinda reminds me of when Betta's and Gourami's were dying from that virus. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| No it doesn't Lucy...I have one little lonely guy left...I've been spoiling him rotten but after this whole mess my hopes are down...I don't know if he will make it or not. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Moderator
|  Good luck, I know you'll do the very best you can. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| I'm really sorry to hear about your loss Cesch. That really sucks. I remember in December losing nine fish in two days - I felt just devastated.
I've been reading a lot of threads lately where ppl are battling 'mystery illnesses' in their fish (me too atm). I wonder if there isn't some endemic fish virus out there - if it's viral it's not going to respond to any meds we try. | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| I was told by someone over at aquariacentral that all the gourami species coming out of asia over the last year have been very weak species. Not sure if this would apply to angels? | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper
| all the angels we have been receiving at my store have been fine. out of 20 we may have had 2 returned. but maybe 3 died instore. we are on head office to set up a special tank to suit their special needs | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Aw Cesch, I'm sorry you lost so many fishies
I've had times like that, particularly when we lost several fish and our dog of 14 years all within a week or two of each other
Sounds like there was something wrong with that shipment. I hope you have better luck with your other fish  | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| awww choffman im so sorry!!! my heart breaks for you!
I havent ever had lucky with juvie angels..I think the water differences between mine and what they are kept in, are too much for them...my last pair that I bought, and body size of the a soda can bottom, are fine...but the tank had been running over a year also..they are just so sensitive to everything and acclimating is hard for the juvies...you are an amazing fish mom so dont be hard on yourself..but again im very sorry ! | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper
| angels are very delicate. they need a pH of 7 | |
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February 28th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| <hugs> | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by katetnies  angels are very delicate. they need a pH of 7 | Most fish, including Angels will adjust to different PH....I had two Angelfish, that I got when they were babies, that lived in the same tank these guys did up until a couple of hours before getting these new ones (they weren't a pair and were picking on each other so I had to take them back) So I have had experience with Angles before. You don't want to put them in 8.2 Ph but anything close to 7 works. Mine was 7.4 or so. I went to a different LFS today in the same town as the one I bought the baby Angles from and they said This other store was notorious for not quarantining their fish and have a high loss rate. But they all use tap water to acclimate their fish and it runs about 7.4-7.8. I'm sure too big of a change to fast isn't good, just like any fish. | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| I guess Angels are on the list of fish I can't have.
My pH usually sits pretty close to 8. | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1313 I guess Angels are on the list of fish I can't have.
My pH usually sits pretty close to 8. | So is mine but I use driftwood and it lowers it.  | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor
| I find that angels are pretty hardy. These days, they're not as hardy bcuz of mass production and I wouldn't get them from stores like Petco and Petsmart because they have NEVER survived more than a week. Try to find a local breeder or a store with good reputation. | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| Of all my fishy successes I've had over the years, I always have had a hard time with angels. I don't know  what the secret is at all......... Its really a bummer  for me because I love angels but I've given up on trying to keep them. | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| I hope I don't continue to have problems. I have my one little guy left and he's looking pretty lonely. I think I'm going to get 5 more and acclimate them for 2 hours or so and make the transition as easy as possible. But if this doesn't work..I'm out I had such good luck with my other Angels, I'm hoping it wasn't a fluke. I just keep telling myself it was the shipment, since the LFS lost all theirs to...It makes me a feel a little better about the whole ugly ordeal. | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Master
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Originally Posted by CHoffman I hope I don't continue to have problems. I have my one little guy left and he's looking pretty lonely. I think I'm going to get 5 more and acclimate them for 2 hours or so and make the transition as easy as possible. But if this doesn't work..I'm out I had such good luck with my other Angels, I'm hoping it wasn't a fluke. I just keep telling myself it was the shipment, since the LFS lost all theirs to...It makes me a feel a little better about the whole ugly ordeal. | i really think it was the shipment cesch, if they lost ALL of those angels i don't think there is anything you could have done | |
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March 1st, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| Quote:
Originally Posted by CHoffman I hope I don't continue to have problems. I have my one little guy left and he's looking pretty lonely. I think I'm going to get 5 more and acclimate them for 2 hours or so and make the transition as easy as possible. But if this doesn't work..I'm out I had such good luck with my other Angels, I'm hoping it wasn't a fluke. I just keep telling myself it was the shipment, since the LFS lost all theirs to...It makes me a feel a little better about the whole ugly ordeal. |
There's a few folks who sell huge lots of angels on aquabid. You could always keep a portion of them and give the rest to your LFS  | |
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