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So this all started on Thursday. My 20 month old threw up for the first time, like serious vomit. All over the floor but it was mostly clear liquid so not so bad on the cleanup. then last night, after my oldest ate a full plate (which was good for her) of mashed tatoes, bbq chicken in a bag, and plate of peas). Was filling great up until it was bedtime, then out of nowhere she fills like she's gonna throw up. She ends up doing so.. til she's bone dry. Poor thing.

We gave her some phenergan prior to it as it usually helps her. Huge side effect of this is it passes her out. I set up a cot for her downstairs and set myself up on the couch and had her surrounded by pots and pans so she could grab whatever was closest. I ended up waking up 9-10 times through the night, and got no sleep at all - literally. During the course of her doing this she was passed out unable to wake up due to the phenergan ... poor thing was dry heaving all over herself as she slept. I tried waking her up repeatedly and it just wasn't possible. Aside from cleaning her up and keeping her hair and face out of things, there was nothing to do.

She wakes up this morning and is feeling substantially better but now has a fever. I tried to go upstairs to get some shut-eye but was unable to. As tired as I was, my stomach was getting huge cramps but I couldn't get myself to throw up. I ended up taking 2 very hot baths as when I am sick, that's the only way to get my system cleared. Finish the second one and my whole body goes weak, as I was planning on and I commenced my violent process of expelling my stomachs contents. What I DID NOT plan on was having my youngest come to the top of the stairs to check on me and I scared the ever loving goodness out of the poor child. Some people throw up and make no noise, some cry while doing it.. I'm the type that you hear 2 blocks down the street cause It's so loud. My head is -still- pounding from it. My body is sore as heck from the spasms I had while going through this and my stomach is utterly empty from going to the bathroom all day and the stomach issues at the start of the day. Literally, I just want to die at this point. My wife says I am a baby when I am sick, and I won't argue this with her. However, for me to get to that point I am usually sicker than the normal person. She also agreed to that after she felt bad for yelling at me because I could not control the 'loudness' of throwing up.

Now she's sick as well... whatever this stuff is is extremely contagious and lasting 24-48 hours. She had lap-band surgery a little over a month ago now.... actually just at a month now and can not throw up. if she does, it means she has to go to the ER stat. Given what happened to all 3 of us already, I can't see it not happening with her. So now I'm just keeping my fingers crossed.



I usually call my pops when I get sick to the point I can't even walk, but he and my younger brother are in Breckenridge this weekend so I'm 'crying' to anyone reading this. So thanks,heh.

My poor fish haven't even been fed this morning / last night. I'm hoping I can eat something soon so I can at least have the strength to deal with the kids who seem to be feeling almost 100% better now.

Shawnie

that is horrible!!!!!!!!! for all of you!! my fam was there two weeks ago...it rips the life right out of you all I can suggest that worked for us was chicken broth and popcycles....not very appetizing, but it helped alot....I hope the wife is ok!! although I wish your entire family good health soon!

Lucy

Ew, well, can't say I wasn't warned. lol
I hope everyone's feeling better soon

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That's actually the very diet we're living off of right now, at least those that are living ;p


lol! I felt I better put a disclaimer after I started reading it over myself.

midnightwolf

wow... im really sorry for u and your family. Good luck and get better soon.

Alessa

Im so sorry I hope everyone feels better soon.

Some things against nausea my family uses are:

Baking soda dilluted into some sort of juice

or icy water with drops of lime juice. (no sugar)

Neither of them taste good at all, but they are effective, at least to me.

I hope you all get better soon.

Minnow

I'm sorry you aren't feeling well Being sick is no fun at all. What usually helps me is having some ginger ale to sip, and maybe some plain toast or unsweetened applesauce if I'm hungry. Get well soon

Edit: I just noticed, you passed up the perfect opportunity to use the barfing smiley!

MissMTS

Oh my gosh that sounds horrible! I hope that you all feel better soon!

Mollies forever

According to my knowledge...not sure if it helps, but Phenergan is only to be used for Sinus and or/ allergic reactions and/or head colds. It is not something which is going to make a child feel better if they are feeling ill - unless allergic. And if she passes out, well I wouldn't ever be giving it to her again. Apart from the fact she may well have choked to death on her own vomit!! had u not been present. And just some more medical info regarding Phenergan in Small children - It has caused known deaths. Sorry to be so blunt, but Phernergan is so overused and so wrongly overused!!
Hope all is good now with your family. Take care.

Lucy

Yeah, he did! lol

I swear by sips of flat warm ginger ale.

Regal

YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED 911 AND TOLD THEM THAT YOU DRUGGED YOUR CHILD.
You drugged a vomiting child to the point that you could not wake her up.

I doubt that was your daughter’s prescription huh? My guess would be it was prescribed for your wife to prevent nausea following her surgery. Either way, you should have sought help when you could not wake her.

Sorry but some situations are too severe to be polite, your daughter could have aspirated her vomit and died. She is lucky to have survived this flu bug.

Mollies forever

here here suemvb............ sorry, but the life of a child is precious, and should not be played with with drugs that should not have been given.

Regal

Please take both kids to the ER. From what I can make out from your post she had a fever as of about two hours ago? Please get them some medical care.

What if she has something in her lungs that is now causing her fever?

Lucy

Let's not jump to conclusions. You have no way of knowing if this med is his wife's.

Regal

That's why I said I was guessing.

Is there a way you, as a moderator, can contact the authorities in Florida with some info that would help them locate these people?

I have seen news stories where kids have died from parents giving them Benadryl to make them sleep.

My husband was given Phenegren while in the hospital to prevent vomiting following surgery. It seriously makes you pass out.

Mollies forever

do you think he may have amde this post as cry for help...? I know that sounds over the top, but as a professional, I am sick of people SELF MEDICATING THEIR CHILDREN.......

Lucy

If I'm not mistaken, this child has health problems.
What makes everyone so sure this isn't the child's medication?
I'm not a nurse or a doctor so I don't know what med this is.

suemvb, I'm only a moderator, I have no way of knowing who he is.

Angela_96

As a healthcare professional and a mother of 2 and one on the way, the proper dosing for phenegran is only in children over 2, 12.5mg and max 25mg every 4 hours. Whatever doctor prescribed phenegran for a child that age is wreckless to say the least.

That medicine can make a child that age stop breathing. The only "stomach" med for infants and children under 2 is zofran.

As far as pediatric stomach issues, I am well familar with it, my 3 year old which has the flu right now had severe food allergies and reflux until he was 18 months old. Never never never once did a doctor give him phenegran, as bad as he was in the hospital throwing up they gave him zofran, prevacid (an adult dose), and axid. He still gets tums occasionally.

My husband being a paramedic as well even will say no child that little should have phenegran...

If this was prescribed to her I would call the doctor and bless them out! And get a new doctor...

Right now, the flu is severe in our area, I had it all week, now my 3 year old has it. No phenegran for him, just popcicles, gatoraide and tlc. He does have a high temp as well, and need be will go to the hospital.

Angela_96

I see children in the er all the time from parents giving their children medicine, some prescribed to the children. The first thing they say is "did you ever once question the doctor?" I have fired 10 doctors over my 3 year old and his severe stomach problems. Finally finding a doctor half his worth to get him better.

The ones w/ children in bad shape that the meds are not prescribed to them, they get child services called on them.

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Wow guys, not sure what everyone was jumping to conclusions too. She was prescribed phenegran some time ago, because she has bad feelings of nauseau but never actually throws up. her pediatrician prescribed it for crying out loud. Honestly, I'm a bit annoyed with how some folks just jumped to conclusions on this. In said we gave her phenegran PRIOR to her throwing up. Evidently she was past the point of it actually being able to help her, which si the first time in over a year of use, which again is something that we've used maybe 3-4 times in the last year. I'm really mad now at this point after actually reading some more of what was said. When I said my daughter passes out, it's clearly being misconstrued and taken out of context. Being sleepy after taking this suppository is NORMAL! It's to help her be able to sleep and get rid of any nausea feelings. Again, I'll repeat this for the overzealous crowd: HER PEDIATRICIAN PRESCRIBED IT FOR HER!!!! No one tried to drug my little girl, so shame on whoever it was for saying that. Shame on you!!

The child had been up THE ENTIRE night and her body physically got to the point it couldn't take it any more. I know I was at that point a few times as a child. She had a short fever EARLIER THIS MORNING... this is hours later now. She is feeling great now and just came and told me how much she loved me for taking care of her last night and she's sorry she got me sick.


For those of you who talk like you know what phenegran is, here.. read up on it: Phenegran Info


I don't know what else to say about these recent posts. All I can say is Shame on you for the assumptions made and the accusations made. I love my kids and was up every hour on the hour with my child last night doign the best I could to take care of her. She had a stomach virus that we were unaware of and it ended up sweeping through the whole house. She is doing GREAT now and is upstairs coloring with her sister.

Thank you Lucy for the notification, I was completely unaware of how this thread had gone. I've been tending to my wife who is feeling quite ill now. Hopefully it'll be over soon.

pinkfloydpuffer

I'm sorry that your family is ill FLCF. I hope you all have a speedy recovery.

I'm also sorry if you feel judged... I don't think it is my place, because obviously I don't have all the knowledge necessary to make a judgement.

I think SteveAngela has a good point here, and has put it in a non-judgemental way. I think a visit to the doctor would be a good idea for you and your family, especially with your wife in the condition that she is. Best of luck to you all.

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3 out of the 4 of us are feeling SUPERB now! It's a nasty stomach virus that my oldest brought home from school. I had to pick her up early Thursday because I had an appointment and couldn't make it back to that side of town to get her in time. We're friends with the school nurse there and after talking to her she warned me to be cautious as she had sent 12 kids home that day, 3 with chicken pox. I am sure this is where my youngest got ill from, after being in the office with all the kids that were coughing and sneezing in there.

My wife is ill right now, not from the virus but from a few things that made the virus a little harder on her.


Really, I appreciate the fact some folks are concerned, but this has been blown entirely out of proportion. I am irate to say the least.

CHoffman

I was prescribed Promethegan which is generic for phenergan for my 1 1/2 year old but it's a suppository and it's 12.5 which we were instructed to cut into 4th which would make it a very low dose..She had nooo side effects though.

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This is the same thing my child was prescribed, though she was 5yo when it was prescribed.

Angela_96

Im not trying to throw stones at all. I feel for you, I have had many many sleepless nights w/ a child that had 15 hospital stays in childrens w/ stomach problems in 5 months. 2 lung scopes, 3 stomach scopes, 2 gastric emtpying scans, allergy test, had roto virus, pnemonia, from aspirating so much reflux for so long, not to mention test for cystic fibrosis. Finding out his reflux was caused by inmature nerve cells to the esophogus and trachea, his airway would collapse when he breathed, and basicly his stomach pipes were open all the time causing reflux to come out constantly. Not to mention severe allergies to milk and soy putting him on a 54 dollar a can, 600 dollar a month formula until he was 2 and a half.

My son is severely underweight for his age from his ailments. Only 30lbs at 3 and a half years.

I can give you all the doctors and nursing info on phenegran, not just that but a copy of my warnings from walgreens where I got phenegran the other day that states children under 2 should not take that medication. My point is stating that you should question the doctor, and the pharmacist over giving your child that medication. It is extremely dangerous.

Not only that but a child her age might have acid reflux causing her nausea (maybe not right now being a fever,and acting like a flu) but if she has stomach problems I would get her in to the nearest childrens to see a pedi gi DOC. I think a good scope and study of her lower gi tract should be done to rule out issues. Lower intestinal problems are common in small children which cause severe nausea.

I am a mod on a site that hundreds of mothers belong to whith children having stomach issues.

pinkfloydpuffer

I am glad things are getting better. Your wife is in my thoughts, and I hope that this will be over soon for all of you.
I agree that some things said were out of line and far too judgemental, and I apologize. I'm sure the intent was nothing but good.

Angela_96

There are a lot of safer medications to put her on for nausea, not to mention something could be going on to cause it to come and go.

CHoffman

Glad to hear your family is feeling better..Sorry there are a few people who got out of line..I complety agree that they were COMPLETELY out of line..I hope you guys continue to get better. It's awful being sick.

Shawnie

sorry you are being judged and to those judgeing, an applogy would be nice....remember that MOST ppl that do cause harm and medicate their kids just because, certainly WOULDNT stay up all night and post about it in a public forum...HELLO!!!!!!!

im glad you are all on the mend ...and dont let a few bad apples in a bunch of fruit baskets give you a bad judgement on the rest of us

Lucy

I hope this is a lesson to everyone not to jump to conclusions before hearing the whole story.

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