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Old October 27th, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
Do I just have bad luck at work or what? (vent)

Ok, some of you may recall the little "complaint" I made at work last summer regarding the poor conditions in which their fish were. For those of you who don't here it is: Is this tang ok?

Now I also started working also at the Planetarium a couple months later, steps away from the nat. science museum. In there I find an empty 5 gallon hex and inquire about it... here: Never thought I would do something like this lol

Now after all that, I finally figure out they set up the tank... for a goldfish

I mean, are this people stupid or what? they are supposed to understand that there isnt an "absolute truth" and that the archaic methods for fishkeeping are being abolished... This is ridiculous... Hypocrites! arent they supposed to know that there is a thin line that scientists should never cross and that is called... INTEGRITY and more important... ETHICS!
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Old October 27th, 2008  
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Sigh, you tried Alessa, that's all you can do.
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Old October 27th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
OMG, Alessa, thats awful I bet you are so frustrated! You are such a good person to put so much effort into trying to help the fish. I am so sorry that the situation is not improving.

You would think that scientists would put integrity and ethics first, but sadly, it is overlooked by many. My sister is a veterinary technician and deals with sick animals every day. She gets upset with people and tells them that they are abusing animals if they don't buy them flea medicine or they choose not to get an antibiotic to treat their animals. However, she abuses her fish. I have tried to help her with them many times and I even do water changes when I go over to her house. Last time I went over there her 10 gallon tank had about 4 inches of green water in it and the filter was off. Her betta is in a 1/4 gallon decorative vase. I offered to buy her a 5 gallon tank or give her an extra 10 gallon and she says she wants to use the tank that she has because it was expensive. Ummmm hellooooo! Now she is neglecting her betta and trying to find someone to take him because she wants to get a red one so it will match her room. You would think that her job would teach her something about caring for animals, but some people choose to turn a blind eye to issues that they don't think are important. I am sorry for what you are dealing with, but I know the feeling!
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Old October 27th, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
I'm not in either situation and I'm already frustrated... hypocrites don't do much good, it's a complicated thing i guess.
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Old October 28th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
(that's all i got to say about that)
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Old October 28th, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
Gosh, I was so frustrated both times. I thought it was normal that most of the people dont listen... but I wasnt expecting that from "scinece driven" people.
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Old October 30th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Problem: "Fish aren't animals" as demonstrated when people say "Fish isn't meat" or when they justify filleting game fish while they're still alive!

Solution: I dunno. People don't consider the "lower" animals as actual animals. I've completely gone off on PETA members so many times because of the hypocrisy of aggressively protecting the cute and fuzzies, then turning around and smashing spiders and setting ant traps.

I have a lot more reasons for disliking PETA...so lets drop it. but I think it's a perfect example of the way people overlook the well being of animals that are more difficult to associate with.

(It's even worse when people apply human standards of well-being to animals at the detriment of the animal...animals are not defective little humans. They don't have human needs, human desires, human emotions...they're completely different and we can't possible "understand" them, we can only respect them!)
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Old October 30th, 2008  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
They're just plain dumb because they SHOULD know better and have no excuse for it.. you did try Alessa and I wish they'd had some sense.
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Old October 31st, 2008  
Fish Master
 
I won't touch PETA, I just won't I'll start venting and never stop....
... however back to the fish, don't expect so much form scientists, they're just people to. It doesn't matter how many degree's you have. (most) People don't relate to fish the way they do to cats and dogs simply b/c the world that the fish live in is so alien to our own. They just don't understand.
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Old October 31st, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
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They're just plain dumb because they SHOULD know better and have no excuse for it.. you did try Alessa and I wish they'd had some sense.
Do you know what is the most ironic situation of all this?

well, I am attaching an image right now. This is the museum campus in chicago. The dome shaped brown bouilding at the far left s the Planetarium and Astronomy Museum. The one to the far right, the largest one, is the Museum of Natural Science....

Do you know what is the one in the middle?

The Aquarium. the only one where I dont work, and the one affiliated to the former two. All three buildings are a network and constantly work with one another... Sigh... One would think that this is one reason more to believe they would treat the aquatic creatures with respect.
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Old October 31st, 2008  
Fish Master
 
ooch that's really bad...
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