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May 10th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | This disgusts me! Today I went over to my parents' house for dinner and I decided to go and check on my sister's fish in her room. Her 10 gallon tank, with 2 glowlight tetras, 2 neon tetras, 2 platies, 1 molly, and 6 molly fry were all sitting in about 6 gallons of water (the water had evaporated so much that it was 5 inches from the top of the tank)!!! The tank is already way overstocked, but they weren't even in a full tank of water. Her bettas was in one of those horrible 1/4 gallon glass globes with the water 2/3 of the way gone and dirt encrusting the entire inside of the globe. I filled up her 10 gallon tank, vacuumed the gravel and fed her fish (they acted like they hadn't been fed in days). Then I unscrewed her betta globe to do a 100 percent water change and the hole at the top was so small I couldn't even net the fish (the small net wouldn't fit inside). I had to scoop him out with my hand and put him in a bowl of water. The poor guy was freaking out  I cleaned the inside of the globe, filled it with water, added amquel plus, and then put the little guy back in and fed him. He looked so much happier. I was so sickened by the way she let her fish live. The thing that gets me is that she is a veterinary technician. She has a huge place in her heart for animals, but for some reason, fish aren't included in that. If she would let me, I would be happy to take the fish off of her hands and treat them right. Grrrrrrrr! She makes me so angry sometimes!  |
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May 10th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo! | She shouldn't have fish and should really know better. |
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May 10th, 2008
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| | Moderator |  That's really sad, it's a good thing you checked on them.
It surprises me she is a veterinary technician, she should be ashamed of herself.
My daughter's friend has a betta in one of those horrid vases. Last time she went over, I asked her to check on it and offer to take it off her hands.
When she got home, she told me she has two of those vases now 
At least, according to my daughter, is she apparently keeps the water pristine and it has philodendrums growing out of the vases. The house is very warm, so temperature is not an issue yet. They have a little room to swim, she said the vases are about 2g and she said their coloring looks good. I know my daughter has tried to talk to her about getting tanks, but it hasn't done any good.
I wish people would realize, when they get a pet it is their responsibility to make sure they give the very best care they can. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Moderator | This is really sad.
A lot of people only have that special place in their heart for the cuddly animals.
Hopefully something was learned from your intervention. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo! | Yea, they miss out on great pets when they do that.  |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Moderator | Quote:
Originally Posted by COBettaCouple Yea, they miss out on great pets when they do that.  | I agree. I mean, I understand that some people think fish are gross or whatever, but they aren't going to keep them as pets, so they don't concern me.
I suppose this is partly due to the mistaken belief that fish are really easy to take care of, when they actually take more attention than your average cat requires. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol I agree. I mean, I understand that some people think fish are gross or whatever, but they aren't going to keep them as pets, so they don't concern me.
I suppose this is partly due to the mistaken belief that fish are really easy to take care of, when they actually take more attention than your average cat requires. | I agree. My fish take up 10 times more of my time than my cats do. This is the thing that frustrates me:
She came over to my house one day and I had a tetra that was really sick. It had popeye and its stomach was sunken in. I had medicated the tank several times and it hadn't gotten better. At that point it was just laying on the bottom of the tank barely breathing and the other fish were nipping at it. I used euthanese to euthanize it because I thought it was kinder than letting it suffer. My sister freaked out and gave me such a hard time about killing this fish. I don't think that she understands that the way that she keeps her fish is considered animal cruelty and that the fish are being tortured. In my oppinion this is way worse. I was just putting an animal out of its missery and she is making her animals misserable. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Moderator | Quote:
Originally Posted by MissMTS I agree. My fish take up 10 times more of my time than my cats do. This is the thing that frustrates me:
She came over to my house one day and I had a tetra that was really sick. It had popeye and its stomach was sunken in. I had medicated the tank several times and it hadn't gotten better. At that point it was just laying on the bottom of the tank barely breathing and the other fish were nipping at it. I used euthanese to euthanize it because I thought it was kinder than letting it suffer. My sister freaked out and gave me such a hard time about killing this fish. I don't think that she understands that the way that she keeps her fish is considered animal cruelty and that the fish are being tortured. In my oppinion this is way worse. I was just putting an animal out of its missery and she is making her animals misserable. | "But fish can't feel pain." I'm sure that someone somewhere in the world is thinking that right now.
Really, I can't understand why someone would get upset about an illness circumstance like that. If anyone ever accused myself or my family of doing anything wrong by euthanizing Spike, I think that my pacifism would be sorely tested. Last edited by sirdarksol; May 11th, 2008 at 08:12 AM.
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | Seriously! My sister euthanizes animals all the time and completely understands that in many scenerios that is the humane thing to do. Why should this be different for a fish  I feel like going over to her house, bagging up her poor fish, and taking them home. I know she'd kill me though. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | That's a shame....One would think she could use her loving sister as an example of how to love and care for her fish..... |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Moderator | No way. You're a Malaysian Trumpet Snail. Nothing can get through that shell of yours. Even puffers have problems with MTS shells.
This is one situation where, try as I might, I just can't comprehend what your sister was thinking. If she was an extreme version of the folks who believe that all life should be preserved at all costs, I would understand what she was thinking, even if I didn't agree with her, but a person like that wouldn't be able to maintain a job like hers, so that can't be it. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | People still think that fish are ornaments not pets. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper | Quote:
Originally Posted by Allie People still think that fish are ornaments not pets. | I agree. I have a friend that still lives at home with her mom and they have 3 tiny vases (and I mean seriously tiny. like the betta cups at the store tiny.) with betta fish. The poor fish look so sad when I go there. The worst thing? She has cats and they drink out of the cups. I caught one on the counter and shooed it away.
I offered to take them, I offered to help them set up tanks, I told them about FishLore. They don't care and it's frustrating. I've stopped going into their kitchen otherwise I'd probably sneak them out in ziploc bags and blame their cats. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaynaB I agree. I have a friend that still lives at home with her mom and they have 3 tiny vases (and I mean seriously tiny. like the betta cups at the store tiny.) with betta fish. The poor fish look so sad when I go there. The worst thing? She has cats and they drink out of the cups. I caught one on the counter and shooed it away.
I offered to take them, I offered to help them set up tanks, I told them about FishLore. They don't care and it's frustrating. I've stopped going into their kitchen otherwise I'd probably sneak them out in ziploc bags and blame their cats. | I wish people would just realize what we all know about fish. Fish are exactly like any other pet. They express feelings on all levels. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper | Some folks get it and some don't.. from politicians to pet-owners, there're some people for whom the true meaning of life, on any scale whether human or animal, is measured in economics or aesthetics.
I sure hope you let your sister know where she was going wrong regarding her fish. |
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May 11th, 2008
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| | Moderator | Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard there're some people for whom the true meaning of life, on any scale whether human or animal, is measured in economics or aesthetics. | You mean it isn't? I need to sell my vast amounts of stock in cosmetics and silicone implants, then. |
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May 12th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol No way. You're a Malaysian Trumpet Snail. Nothing can get through that shell of yours. Even puffers have problems with MTS shells.
This is one situation where, try as I might, I just can't comprehend what your sister was thinking. If she was an extreme version of the folks who believe that all life should be preserved at all costs, I would understand what she was thinking, even if I didn't agree with her, but a person like that wouldn't be able to maintain a job like hers, so that can't be it. | Lol!
But seriously, I don't think that she is an extremest who wants to preserve life at all costs because she actually agrees with euthanizing animals to put them out of their pain, but for some reason, she flipped out when it pertained to a fish. So wierd.......... |
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May 12th, 2008
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| | Fish Master | Quote:
Originally Posted by Allie People still think that fish are ornaments not pets. | Yup, and that is such a sad thing to me. I get so upset if I know that my fish are unhappy and suffering. I could not imagine being one of those people who are indifferent to it. |
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