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March 14th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict | kids and fish... i have a 9 year old daughter who is DYING to get her own tank. i've tried to encourage her to be satisfied getting involved with mine, but that's just not doing it for her... and every other day she's deciding what fish she wants to 'breed' (still having no tank of her own yet).
she has over $120 saved up, so she could buy herself a decent little tank (saw a 35g on craigslist for $50 with everything). but i'm pretty nervous about getting her something like this. i absolutely don't want to wind up dealing with it myself. (i don't mind mine, but i knew what kind of commitment it was when i got it, etc - and if i ever got another it would be larger than the one i have now).
i told her that if she could keep her room pretty clean with no reminders, for a month... i'd let her get a tank. does that sound reasonable? she's notoriously bad about cleaning her room... so i'm doubting we'll ever get to that point, but it sounded like a good test of her ability to discipline herself.
i also have concerns about what fish she'll choose... i do want her to decide for herself, but i will put the well-being of the fish first, and not permit her to make choices that would stunt their growth or be completely incompatible, etc... and i'm trying to nix the whole 'breeding' thing... explaining to her that she should not look at it as a source of income (she's all about makin' money, lol), but rather a pleasant surprise if she happens to wind up with babies.
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Moderator | thats a great incentive...and reminding her just periodically if she slips, cause you know kids will, that if she slips with her room how can she take care of her tank?? my kids stil swear I love my fish more than them...as far as breeding fish, IF she gets her own tank, she will be so happy for that fact that she mite just forget about the breeding part...goodluck  |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper | If she saved that much money on her own, I think she'd probably be OK.
I know I was doing the bulk of taking care of my cat when I was that age, but it was easy since we didn't have a litterbox. |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper | No one knows a kid like their parents !  If you don't think she'll last through the cycle process, don't even give in! You know better! You know what will happen ! lol
Maybe you should go ahead and get that bigger aquarium you want, and work with her on it? Both of you do the decoration, deciding on habitat (natural , fancy decor, etc), and then work on fish selections together. Once she understands which fish can get a long with the others, both of you make a long list of candidates and then each circle their favorites and see what kind of blend you get!!
My other idea would be, let her get the tank and do a fishless cycle. If she can manage that, once she has a ready-to-go tank, go ahead and let her look at fish. If she can last through the cycle, she should be good to go from there  |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Moderator | wondering can a 9 year old have the patience for a fishless cycle or any cycle for that matter? I know im 41, and going thru the cycle, (of fish that is, not the life cycle LOL) and although im patient, its not easy!!
As kids get older, its harder to do the "grounding" thing..so ive always given or taken things away for goals not met...aka the month of cleaning the room...
Shes an fishaholic in the making I bet !! |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper | my daugther and my sons (boys share a room) each have a aquarium in their rooms. I have to admit im the one that takes care of the tanks but they have learned alot from asking questions and watching me. they love to lay in bed and look at the fish. my daughters we are upgrading to a 20 gal. she will be helping me and learning along the way, she's 17. maybe i should have started her with total care of the tank sooner, but i just didn't think she was ready for all that comes with owning a tank, but she gained alot of knowledge over the years to be able to do it on her own hopefully with this new tank. so with younger children expect to take care of the tank but they can still help (ie at the youngest age they knew how "little" to feed them and not to put hand, ect in the tanks, unless hands are clean, and soap is very bad, etc...). As they got older they learned about water changes , etc....I believe it has to be a dual project with kids to have a successful tank that the kids enjoy onto adulthood. |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict | as it is with my 72g, she's ALWAYS bugging me with every little thing the fish do (omg, the snail's on the filter tube!... omg, that angel's eating that plant!... omg, the kuhli's are going crazy!) she always wants to 'help' when i test the water or do a waterchange... she especially wants to feed them, but i've been a little selfish with that, 'cause i don't want to wind up vacuuming tons of crud up after each meal.
so the initial interest is definitely there... but i'm not sure it'll last. oh, and btw... i'm not getting another bigger tank until we move... and as of yet we have no plans to move.
anyway, i just know that right now, i only want to take care of the one tank myself. i'd help her with hers, until she got the hang of it, but the bulk of the care would be up to her. every time we go to the pet store, she looks at tanks and prices and even the costs of decorations or gravel, etc... oh, and she wants to keep it in the living room so that while she's at school i can 'make sure her fish don't die'... |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Moderator | thats so cool...are fish the only animal you have? I know we have a hampster, a leopard gheco, 2 dogs, and of course the 3 tanks...i remember getting lots of animals over the years with the promise "ill take care of them mom"! and we all know where that goes...but I think kids without animals, are missing something..even if just one animal, its part of growing up...IMO, id grab that setup on craigs list anyhoo..its a great deal and who says ya gotta set it up now...she sounds very caring about fish period and thats amazing |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict | well, no... we have a cat with a mean streak that's older than dirt. and a few years ago we got a hahn's macaw who thinks he's the boss of everything. my husband is trying to persuade me to get a dog when our son gets a little older, but ugh... let's just not go there. |
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March 14th, 2008
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| | Moderator | HAHA..well I can tell ya, a dog, specially a puppy, is just like another child...but with the animals you have, maybe your daughter wants something she can call hers...seems the cat could care less and the bird owns everyone lol...(or thinks he does like our chawauwa) ...but pets rock our world.. |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor | Hi!
Serene - I'm 11... I have 3 tanks in my bedroom, all maintained by me. She shouldn't have a problem. Get her a FishLore account, and let her chat to all us people! I think you'll agree how hard it is to be a member of FL and not learn a lot and become keen, what better way to kick start her in this hobby? It will also teach her a few PC skills and we can always keep an eye on what she's up to on FL if your slightly concerned. Also, bookmark a few good aquatic sites (Age of Aquariums, PlantGeek, FishLore of course, FishProfiles, Aquarium Poetry, PlanetCatfish and AquariumLife!) for her to explore. She'll be thrilled to own her own little world, and with the BakcUp of the internet (The reason I'm still in this hobby) and lots of friendly fish people on FL she'll get of to a g reat start and have a ton of fun. |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict | i emailed the couple with the 35g (not a bad size for a first tank!) and got a response that they still have it, tho it's first come, first serve. going to try to go tomorrow morning to get it, and hopefully it'll still be there. but i told her, just because we get it for her doesn't mean she's going to get to set it up! i'm hoping that seeing it sit there empty will really inspire her in regard to her room.
she'll have access to lots of those sites, hatchet, but not without me. if she has questions and stuff, i'll probably just post for her or let her use my ID here. there are too many bad people in the world for me to be comfortable letting her chat with strangers, even on a fish forum. i wouldn't want her getting her own PMs and whatnot. |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper | Quote:
Originally Posted by SereneReyn i emailed the couple with the 35g (not a bad size for a first tank!) and got a response that they still have it, tho it's first come, first serve. going to try to go tomorrow morning to get it, and hopefully it'll still be there. but i told her, just because we get it for her doesn't mean she's going to get to set it up! i'm hoping that seeing it sit there empty will really inspire her in regard to her room.
she'll have access to lots of those sites, hatchet, but not without me. if she has questions and stuff, i'll probably just post for her or let her use my ID here. there are too many bad people in the world for me to be comfortable letting her chat with strangers, even on a fish forum. i wouldn't want her getting her own PMs and whatnot. | ditto that on the child access deal. My girls are gonna be able to use the PC as if they were dating.. not til they are 16 and have a car and a job! lol |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper | Quote: |
Serene - I'm 11... I have 3 tanks in my bedroom, all maintained by me. She shouldn't have a problem. Get her a FishLore account, and let her chat to all us people! I think you'll agree how hard it is to be a member of FL and not learn a lot and become keen, what better way to kick start her in this hobby? It will also teach her a few PC skills and we can always keep an eye on what she's up to on FL if your slightly concerned. Also, bookmark a few good aquatic sites (Age of Aquariums, PlantGeek, FishLore of course, FishProfiles, Aquarium Poetry, PlanetCatfish and AquariumLife!) for her to explore. She'll be thrilled to own her own little world, and with the BakcUp of the internet (The reason I'm still in this hobby) and lots of friendly fish people on FL she'll get of to a g reat start and have a ton of fun.
| HachetHaven, congratulations you sound very responsible and love your pets. Its a great hobby that will last a lifetime. I'll check out some of the other sites you listed not all of them im familiar with. So far fishlore is still my favorite. Last edited by Mike; March 15th, 2008 at 09:45 AM.
Reason: fixed quote for ya |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper | uug, my previous post it tried to attach a previous quote and it came out like an original message. oops. how should i quote a post? |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Moderator | You can either use the quote button for that particular post or see here on how to quote multiple posts: How do I add multi quotes in a reply
OR use the (quote)quote goes here(/quote) but replace the parantheses with brackets [] |
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March 15th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper | thanks mike. i did it with copy/paste . now i notice its quoted in blue. Did you do that for me. or did i  ? |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor | Quote:
Originally Posted by SereneReyn she'll have access to lots of those sites, hatchet, but not without me. if she has questions and stuff, i'll probably just post for her or let her use my ID here. there are too many bad people in the world for me to be comfortable letting her chat with strangers, even on a fish forum. i wouldn't want her getting her own PMs and whatnot. | Hi!
Makes sense, but then, with you around she shouldn't have a problem with her fish! Well, my dad is a Mod for a kite forum; I guess that makes sense why I can spend so much time on the net alone... I know the rules of by heart! |
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