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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Helper
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my tank broke last night
last night my nefue was playing around the tank and he threw a baseball at the tank and broke it. I saved my fish but I had to go to a walmart( which was the only place open at 10:00 at night) and I had to buy a smaller tank it's 10 gallons and I saved the rock and rinsed it off but I didn't boil them or anything like that. but there's new water in the tank now. and I was wondering if the new tank was to be cycled again because it's new,
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November 19th, 2007
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Moderator
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Hi Ashley
so sorry to hear about the accident with the tank. What a shame...
Glad to hear you were able to save your fish tho.  If your filter media didnt dry up in the time it took for you to set up the new tank and add water, you shouldnt be that far behind a new cycle. Did you use the same gravel? I hope you rinsed everything very well to make sure there is no glass in any of the substrate or tank decor. Not only can it harm the fish, you can cut yourself when doing maintenance on the tank. So be very careful and make sure you got up all the glass. Your tank will have to go through another cycle tho, just stay on top of testing and water changes and you should be ok.
What fish do you have in the tank now?
 ~ kate
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Addict
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The bacteria would primarily be in your filter and substrate etc, so as long as you reused those you should be fine, as long as the new water was similar in parameters as your old. You may get a mini cycle but shouldn't get a full on one.
Also sorry to hear about your accident and hope all goes well.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Addict
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Also what can help is to grab some quick growing plants like cabomba or hornwort, and stick a bunch in your tank, and let them soak up any spikes that may try to start. The plants will take in the ammonia and nitrite etc to make it easier on your fish. Both of those plants do not have to be planted either you can just drop them in and let them do there work and remove them down the road if you no longer want them.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Keeper
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Yikes, I would have freaked out! I hope that everything works out all right.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Helper
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i room is soaked! i'm mad
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November 19th, 2007
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Good advice here. Hope your fish do well.
Also hope the kid's parents held him responsible for his actions.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Helper
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Originally Posted by sirdarksol
Good advice here. Hope your fish do well.
Also hope the kid's parents held him responsible for his actions.
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nope since he's 7 he gets off scott free becase he's jusr a kid! grrrrrrr.
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Hi Ashley
so sorry to hear about the accident with the tank. What a shame...
Glad to hear you were able to save your fish tho. If your filter media didnt dry up in the time it took for you to set up the new tank and add water, you shouldnt be that far behind a new cycle. Did you use the same gravel? I hope you rinsed everything very well to make sure there is no glass in any of the substrate or tank decor. Not only can it harm the fish, you can cut yourself when doing maintenance on the tank. So be very careful and make sure you got up all the glass. Your tank will have to go through another cycle tho, just stay on top of testing and water changes and you should be ok.
What fish do you have in the tank now?
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yea I used the same gravel and I rinsed all the gravel out very well. I put it on a black towel and put a lamp above it and picked out all the shinny glass I saw.
oh and another thing is that I have pregnant fish, so are they going to be alright and still have there babys or what?
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November 19th, 2007
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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i think he's old enough to learn that throwing baseballs at fish tanks isn't something to do. maybe his parents will feel differently when he tosses one through the front window of their house.
i'd do 25% pwcs every other day and test the water before each one to see how the tank is doing on getting back to being fully cycled. Do you have Prime to be treating the tap water with?
the pregnant fish should be no worse off than the others since you acted quickly to save them. 
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November 19th, 2007
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I think a three year old is old enough to know that, let alone a seven year old. I'm not talking replacing the tank or anything, maybe just having to help set the new tank up, or something like that.
Anyway, I'll get off my "people should teach their kids responsibility" soap box now.
Once again, it sounds like you've got things under control, so your fish should survive very well. 
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Addict
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C'mon now, my 18 month old knows not to hit fish tanks. I would have bit that kids head off for doing that. 
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Mentor
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I also agree that a 7 year old is certainly old enough to know that what he did was wrong, and should have to do something to repay you the loss.
Several years ago I was doing a landscaping job worth many thousands of $$$'s . One day after planting I left, and 3 little boys all between the ages of 5 and 9 went through and pulled up EVERYTHING I had put in that day.....Their parents were made to pay not only for the plants that were killed, but my time to replant! This, because they left their children unattended.....Parents MUST teach their children right from wrong, and even if it was an accident, we all have to pay for our mistakes. You should NOT have to pay for a new aquarium, and it should be replaced with one of the same size!
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November 19th, 2007
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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but if you do that, the poor little guy will feel bad about himself.. and we can't have that, can we? :P it's like this little brat that was running around the store yelling, comes up to me, hits me on purpose, runs away and then his dad flips me off.. hey, i guess the prison guards need future job security.
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Originally Posted by sirdarksol
I think a three year old is old enough to know that, let alone a seven year old. I'm not talking replacing the tank or anything, maybe just having to help set the new tank up, or something like that.
Anyway, I'll get off my "people should teach their kids responsibility" soap box now.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Helper
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people fustrate me because as soon as I started to clean up all the water my sister asked me what happened and when i told her what happened she said oh well and took my nephwe and left. and i had to clean up the mess, by myself.
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November 19th, 2007
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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 that's just wrong.
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Originally Posted by ♥ashley♥
people fustrate me because as soon as I started to clean up all the water my sister asked me what happened and when i told her what happened she said oh well and took my nephwe and left. and i had to clean up the mess, by myself.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Helper
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yep I know. I am so mad right now.
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November 19th, 2007
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Fish Helper
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I certainly would not have been nearly as calm about it....they are not cheap to replace (both time cost and actual cost) and a 7yr old definately should know better than throwing a ball in the house....my kids wouldn't dare go near my tanks...they have been warned that they will have to replace at their cost (even if i gotta wait for years) anything they break through being foolish and knowing better than to do what they did (different if a real accident, cause well accidents do happen)
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November 19th, 2007
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Moderator
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Yeah, too many people think that because they're kids, they shouldn't be held responsible. Like I said, I don't expect a kid to pay back a broken tank or anything (though a good parent would do so, the law in this matter is iffy, and it depends on the judge as to whether or not the parents are responsible). I also don't think the kid should be involved in the direct cleanup in this case (putting a kid near sharp pieces of glass that are coated in aquatic bacteria, while possessing a note of poetic justice, is dangerous). However, helping in setting up the tank shows the kid that, even if something is an accident, there are consequences, and that a good human being will try to undo any harm they have done. It also might get the kid interested in something that would teach him a little patience.
P.S., the Christian-hearted, Buddhist-minded darksol is out of the body at the moment, and the vindictive, evil darksol would like to suggest that breaking a couple of the kid's toys when you're over at his house will make things even. Depending on the cost of your original tank, perhaps dumping a can of soda on his PS3 would be in order. 
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