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Old December 11th, 2008  
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Not wierd, just different

Is anyone into suff most people might find wierd. Resist the urge to say fish. I mean old/unpopular bands and the like, the stuff you might get teased for. Ive acually seen students at the high school with power ranger backpacks.
I myself am into myths and legends, like bigfoot, el chupacabra and the like. You can guess what else Im into, too.
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Old December 11th, 2008  
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I like listening to books on tape. Especially when the person reading the story is english. There voices are really relaxing. I like the way the voices are different for each character. My friends think I'm nuts.
The people at schools who do weird things like the stuff you mention are usually a case of wanting people to look at them, and say 'wow, that guys so cool. He wears stuff made for preschoolers...' At least thats what I think. Most people like that aren't usually truly imaginative or unique, they just want attention. But the people who are actually genuine like that are usually really neat, they just get written off as weirdos.
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Old December 11th, 2008  
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Classical Literature (the greek tragedians) and classical philosophy... people look at me like: "what?"
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Old December 11th, 2008  
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I like 80's music too. My ringtone is 'Rock Me Amadeus' by Falco. Anyone know that song? It's pretty exciting.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
Fish Mentor
 
oh yeah... and 50-80s music too.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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That is so true. People that are in to computers and stuff are labeled as nerds. Well those so called nerds have invented things like the internet and cell phones and stuff. Without them we wouldnt have what we do today.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I occasionally wear a yo gabba gabba t-shirt.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I just bought a Run DMC tshirt.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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80's music
Anime (not really "out there" anymore, but my wife and I watched Sailor Moon when we were in high school)
Cosplaying (related to anime, I've got four different costumes, my wife has a dozen)
Rennaissance Festivals
RPGs (less "out there" than it used to be, but again, I've been doing it for years)
I listen to a lot of odd/old bands (Crash Test Dummies, Flyleaf, Dresden Dolls, Cruxshadows, Styx, Falco, Leah Andreone, Aqua, Coheed and Cambria, Panic! at the Disco, which is odd for my age)
Japanophile
Martial arts
Love reading books by H.P. Lovecraft, Aasimov, Bradbury, etc...

Nope. All of my hobbies are average.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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Wow, Im into anime and rpgs too. Unless you mean dungeons& dragons and that sort of stuff. I dont cosplay, cause we dont have that sort of thing here. I live in boring ol Bremerton, WA. Not much to do around here, unless you like shopping and fast food.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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Yep, I'm an old D&D nerd. I also play computer RPGs, but they're a pale comparison to the tabletop stuff, in my mind.

And you don't need to have an anime convention around to cosplay. My wife has only worn two of her costumes to a convention. She just kind of collects them. I've gone to a Halloween party as Leon/Wesker from Resident Evil (I was Wesker until the wind got its hands on my hair), another one as The Sinner Chrono from Chrono Crusade (I can't do that one again until my hair grows out), and Tatewaki Kuno from Ranma1/2 (that one was really cheating, because it was just my kenjutsu outfit and a bokken). If you've got enough friends who are into anime, you can even start your own little convention. Those things have a habit of growing really fast if they've been well done.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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I have to admit here, that I have experienced World of Warcraft addiction at several points since it's been out! I had never played ANY sort of MMORPG, or heck, not even any massive game before, online or off. I was just never into it - but my hubby (pre marriage) turned me onto it, and even as silly as I find it, I still experienced the addiction for a good year and a half. He plays it still obsessively, and I pop on and get a fix every now and then.
Its funny. I am SO not the type - my husband is a self proclaimed geek and works at Apple as an engineer.
There is nothing "weird" about having varied, and sometimes opposing, interests or hobbies!
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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I occasionally wear a yo gabba gabba t-shirt.
HAHAHA Too funny - do you also do drugs? (IM teasing, mostly!) My toddler loves that show, but I refrain from letting her watch it too much as it little more than someone's interpretation of their acid trip. Creepy.

There is just something about a tall, thin, Afro wearing man in an orange jumpsuit that screams "druggie from the 70's" to me.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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My kids love this show..3 years and 18 months..I thought the same thing you did at first. My kids don't watch tv much but everyonce in awhile I'll turn it on for them. My thinking is the kids have no idea what acid or the 70's were..My older brain is just trained to see that type of show as bad..but not theirs..They love it..They dance and sing with it and see it as a good thing. I figure if they are learning something from it..which they do, then they are only better off. But it is a littel creepy to me..lol.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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None of my friends are that in to anime. Im not that creative anyway. Although last Halloween my friends said I looked like Indiana Jones.
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Old December 12th, 2008  
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I learn new instruments for fun (I can play clarinet, bass clarinet, alto clarinet, alto sax, tenor sax, english horn, bassoon, trumpet, flute, and piano ( not all at once of course ))

I listen to music written before America was discovered (odd for a teenager)
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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I learn new instruments for fun (I can play clarinet, bass clarinet, alto clarinet, alto sax, tenor sax, english horn, bassoon, trumpet, flute, and piano ( not all at once of course ))

I listen to music written before America was discovered (odd for a teenager)
Pretty old considering the vikings were tromping around in 600A.D.

I'm a total dork. I get excited about math and science, and go off on long rants about the virtues of certain manufacturing processes.

My last extended rant was about the use of the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse as an example of resonance...when it was really caused by aerodynamic flutter! Two totally different concepts, and I hate that young students are learning something that is provably incorrect!

Aww jeeze, there goes the blood pressure again.

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Old December 13th, 2008  
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My Sunday morning pick-me-up?

Discussing time travel and black holes with engineers. I'm really interested in 'what if', and some of the discussions we have had are things you don't expect from a teenager. Every Sunday my mother, father, my dad's coworker and myself get together for breakfast- when I was explaining my (then) newest theory of time, I wish I had a videotape of the faces of the people around us.

I also love mythology- not just the simple 'this god was god of this' stuff, but the more hardcore things, like family-tree mapping. Zeus certainly got around a lot, but there's a good reason for it.
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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My Sunday morning pick-me-up?

Discussing time travel and black holes with engineers. I'm really interested in 'what if', and some of the discussions we have had are things you don't expect from a teenager. Every Sunday my mother, father, my dad's coworker and myself get together for breakfast- when I was explaining my (then) newest theory of time, I wish I had a videotape of the faces of the people around us.

I also love mythology- not just the simple 'this god was god of this' stuff, but the more hardcore things, like family-tree mapping. Zeus certainly got around a lot, but there's a good reason for it.
time travel gets me spinning. Do you have a sequential or parallel view of time? time travel is really paradoxical in a sequential observation, and time travel is really pointless in a parallel observation...so what's the point either way? lol

For those who might have trouble following:

Sequential is the "timeline" view. So you go back in time to change something, but since it was changed you had no reason to go back in time, and so never changed it. That's called a paradox.

Parallel is a smidgen more abstract and most people don't understand it. It essentially states that there exist infinite parallel universes in which anything that could have happened, DID happen.

(This is really an emerging understanding that works to describe quantum physics in a way that eliminates the need for observation. Classic quantum physics relies very heavily on observation...but how can 'observation' change the state of a system . The famous thought experiment is Shrodinger's Cat, look it up if you want to spend some time collecting your socks that are about to blow off. )

For example, you have a choice to go to the bank or stay at home. YOU stay at home, so the other you, in a parallel universe DOES go to the bank. This is where people fall off the bandwagon, it's infinite because there exist another universe for every possible sequence of events for every thing in the universe.

It's pointless because you're not really time traveling, just universe traveling and you don't really change anything in your own slice of the uinverse.

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Old December 13th, 2008  
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I believe in parallel time- always have since before I even knew the word 'paradox'

I've yet to take physics (that's next year), so I can't exactly put it into figures or have any clue if this makes sense, but my theory goes like this:

There are an infinite number of box cars following an infinite number of engines in parallel, branching tracks. Each box car represents a different universe. Every tie that a box car passes over represents an event in time. The boxcar behind you is the smallest fraction of a second behind you. If you stub your toe right now, the 'you' in the boxcar behind you is one (tiniest amount of time possible) away from stubbing their toe.

At every event, a box car can either go one direction or the other, depending on whether the passengers' actions match the specifications for one track or the other. All of the possible paths already exist, but are ahead of you in your boxcar and therefore you have yet to be able to chose that direction.

Time travel is simply jumping boxcars.

Now, the whole getting back business is a web I'm still trying to figure out.
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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I believe in parallel time- always have since before I even knew the word 'paradox'

I've yet to take physics (that's next year), so I can't exactly put it into figures or have any clue if this makes sense, but my theory goes like this:

There are an infinite number of box cars following an infinite number of engines in parallel, branching tracks. Each box car represents a different universe. Every tie that a box car passes over represents an event in time. The boxcar behind you is the smallest fraction of a second behind you. If you stub your toe right now, the 'you' in the boxcar behind you is one (tiniest amount of time possible) away from stubbing their toe.

At every event, a box car can either go one direction or the other, depending on whether the passengers' actions match the specifications for one track or the other. All of the possible paths already exist, but are ahead of you in your boxcar and therefore you have yet to be able to chose that direction.

Time travel is simply jumping boxcars.

Now, the whole getting back business is a web I'm still trying to figure out.
Essentially the same as the parallel universes concept, just a little more "down to earth". However, the box cars never need to change "tracks" because there are infinite tracks, so every track has a unique permuation of events and every permutation exists on one of the other tracks. You haven't quite grasped the idea of "infinite" in your explanation.
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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Not changing tracks, but coming to a fork, so to speak. There are infinitely many possible tracks that a box could come to, and the box behind them could either follow them or divert to the other side of the fork.
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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Not changing tracks, but coming to a fork, so to speak. There are infinitely many possible tracks that a box could come to, and the box behind them could either follow them or divert to the other side of the fork.
but they still don't need to. Every possible sequence of events already exists. Therefore it's redundant for tracks to diverge because either outcome already exists on other tracks.
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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Other tracks? By definition, once the track has split no other track will be able to join up with it and come to the same pathway, as prior events would have made some very, very small difference that ultimately wouldn't allow the boxcar to completely jump tracks.

Once you forked, there wouldn't really be a way to go to directly another fork. You could go backward along the path your boxcar already took, and by your very being in that other boxcar it would change the path so your new boxcar would never cross the same track as your original.
Here is your fork:
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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so...you imagine it as a tree with infinitely many branches. But the branches never touch.

I imagine it as a graph with infinitely many lines (all vertical, all horizontal, whatever...), where each line would describe a single path along your tree (or the tracks for that matter). We were essentially describing the same thing, but you were clinging to a physical representation while I jumped to an analytical representation.

But mine isn't really a graph, because each "line" is actually 4 dimensional. So I think of it more as an infinite matrix...(linear algebra is awesome)

The act of branching or diverging doesn't really matter, the resultant path is all that matters. Every path is unique and therefore can be represented independently from the others. You don't need to know what path "A" looks like to know what path "B" looks like, and so on. That's where I took a step beyond the physical representation.

Besides, the physical representation limits you to a geometric analysis...which clearly isn't the case. There are infinitely many dimensions because there are infinitely many universes. Geometry can only handle THREE dimensions... lol
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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Ah, but there inlays the issue of seeing vs being. It is one thing to see path B from path A, but quite another to leave path A for point B. My idea is that, to go from A to B, you must first go to where A and B first diverged, rather than jump from one track to another.

I'm very familiar with time being a fourth dimension and spent a good time pondering it with the AP physics teacher for my school (I had him for geometry during the Summer), but usually use the physical model for ease of explanation.

*seriously needs to leave time travel and get a start on that Honors English book analysis*
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Old December 13th, 2008  
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I understand...but I'll have to disagree.

For one, that doesn't explain the oddities of quantum physics. It's actually counter-intuitive given what we know. I know it seems like an unrelated point, but quantum physics provides evidence to the way the universe works.

Take, for instance, the double slit experiment where particles act like waves, which means particles can occupy infinitely many locations concurrently, alluding to the existence of parallel universes. (and that we can interact with those universes...). The experiment works with photons, electrons, and even HUGE things like atoms. So it follows then that it would work for even larger things like molecules and housecats.

Secondly, it doesn't make sense that you can travel backwards in time within your own sphere of time that is still moving forward. That's just perplexing to me...

So...to revise, I think there exists a universe for every possible sequence of events, but there also exists a universe for every instance of time (phase) for each sequence of events...all in parallel.

so "time travel" is really just a jump to an off-phase universe. Not to another universe in phase with ours...because we already occupy all of those right now anyway (just as the particles in the slit experiment).
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Old December 15th, 2008  
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In middle school people looked at me funny when I said that I hated rap but loved country. It was a school with a lot of rich privileged kids.
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Old December 15th, 2008  
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I almost failed a semester of nursing school due to playing the computer game "Mankind." Now I love World of Warcraft. I love to clean house. The one thing that people look at me funny for is because I am a woman and very anti-feminist. When I get on a rant men swoon and women scowl. I LOVE taking care of my husband and our pets.
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Old December 15th, 2008  
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Hey Travel, Zoreta, you two having fun? Anyway, People think im weard cause I like to cook and bake. Im good at it though.
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