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August 1st, 2008
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| Rainfall Simulator/ video of some of my fish
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August 1st, 2008
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| That's ingenius, I would've thought it would need to be so much more complicated. | |
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August 2nd, 2008
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| Looks nice! | |
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August 2nd, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor
| So the idea is to attach airstones to the top (glued maybe?) and use them with a powerhead to spray water down? I have Monday off, so I might try this too!
Thanks again
Pepe
Santo Domingo | |
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August 2nd, 2008
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by pepetj  So the idea is to attach airstones to the top (glued maybe?) and use them with a powerhead to spray water down? I have Monday off, so I might try this too!
Thanks again
Pepe
Santo Domingo | If you can get air stones to work then go for it! I think they would work better.
My problem was (and i'll take pics tomorrow) that the outlet on the powerhead was too big, so I actually went to my hardware store and got some tubing that was large enough to fit over it, but fit snugly.
After that, I attached it to my hood with fishing line. I just tied it up to it so that I could remove it if need be (which if I can figure out how to use airstones I will remove it for them).
Just so you know, I cut slits into the tubing so the water can seep out, and attached a cork at the end so that the water's only way of leaving the tube was through the slits. | |
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August 4th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| cool!  | |
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August 4th, 2008
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| Thanks  | |
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August 4th, 2008
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| I bet that would work wonders in a cory breeding tank.
When you breed them you do large water changes(along with conditioning) with water a degree or so cooler than the tank to simulate spring rains/flooding. HUM... very interesting 
Carol | |
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August 4th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Butterfly I bet that would work wonders in a cory breeding tank.
When you breed them you do large water changes(along with conditioning) with water a degree or so cooler than the tank to simulate spring rains/flooding. HUM... very interesting
Carol | well it was very inexpensive (only had to pay for the powerhead/tubing), so I'd say give it a shot!
I wonder if this cools down the water? I don't think it would but ya never know... | |
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August 4th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Dark_Rider2k3
I wonder if this cools down the water? I don't think it would but ya never know...
| Probably not but just doing the water change, then let it rain over night and who knows
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August 4th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Probably not but just doing the water change, then let it rain over night and who knows
Carol | yeah, though I bet you could hook up an aquarium chiller to this, and during the "rain time" you could set it to a lower temp so it will act like rain even more. | |
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August 4th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Dark_Rider2k3 yeah, though I bet you could hook up an aquarium chiller to this, and during the "rain time" you could set it to a lower temp so it will act like rain even more. | Now we're getting complicated
Carol | |
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August 4th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Now we're getting complicated
Carol | hey i'm a programmer.. it's my nature to complicate things  | |
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August 5th, 2008
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| ingenius amazing invention and nicejob | |
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August 5th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
| That's so cool!what is the tubing connected to? | |
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August 5th, 2008
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| Thanks a lot russ and Pinky!!
The tubing is connected to a powerehad. That's all there is to it lol | |
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August 9th, 2008
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| Ok day one of experimenting with the idea.
I still need to find the propper converters, reductors, etc for the tubing works. This stage of experimentation uses airstones for the rainfall effect.
Even with leaks, I managed to create quite a rain-effect (drops of water hitting the water surface!). So far it worked with both, a low range adjustable output cheap pump -10USD (up to 80 GPH), and with a much stronger fixed output cheap powerhead -22USD (370 GPH). I used two flat-type 10" long ready to connect-in-series airstones (Elite Aqua Fizzzz, Art. 982) for the trial.
I am experimenting in the large tank for the ease of it.
Would this work with several circular/oval bubble-wall systems? what about multiple wall-bubbles tubes?
Thanks for the idea again Dark_Rider2K3. By the way I intend to use it in my Red-Salmon Rainbowfish tank, to simulate Monsoon season. I need a chiller (waiting on 700 to 1250BTU units to arrive at the LFS) just to keep my bows alive. So I intend to give "the complication" a try.
Pepe
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August 10th, 2008
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by pepetj Ok day one of experimenting with the idea.
I still need to find the propper converters, reductors, etc for the tubing works. This stage of experimentation uses airstones for the rainfall effect.
Even with leaks, I managed to create quite a rain-effect (drops of water hitting the water surface!). So far it worked with both, a low range adjustable output cheap pump -10USD (up to 80 GPH), and with a much stronger fixed output cheap powerhead -22USD (370 GPH). I used two flat-type 10" long ready to connect-in-series airstones (Elite Aqua Fizzzz, Art. 982) for the trial.
I am experimenting in the large tank for the ease of it.
Would this work with several circular/oval bubble-wall systems? what about multiple wall-bubbles tubes?
Thanks for the idea again Dark_Rider2K3. By the way I intend to use it in my Red-Salmon Rainbowfish tank, to simulate Monsoon season. I need a chiller (waiting on 700 to 1250BTU units to arrive at the LFS) just to keep my bows alive. So I intend to give "the complication" a try.
Pepe
Santo Domingo | Glad it's working out good for you. I, too, am using a cheap pump (though mine was 19.99 USD).
I don't think you'd really need any super expensive pumps, mainly because your trying to keep it gentle and "like rain.." if you had a larger pump, i think the water would be forced out harder, causing it to hit the tank water harder and really not too much like rain..
tell me how the airstones go if you figure that out. If it works out well, I may do that as well | |
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August 10th, 2008
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| Where did you get such a neat idea?! I'd try it on my 47gal, but it would probabably be a bit noisy in my bedroom and be like a bombing raid for the hatchets! | |
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August 10th, 2008
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| Update: not that good with airstones after all, neither with the circular/oval bubble accessories... a spraybar works best. Check this info (has good pics) http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums...d.php?t=109900
Since I want some heavy rain effect, I will check on multiple shower heads (if we can complicate something simple, why not?)
Pepe
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August 11th, 2008
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by pepetj Update: not that good with airstones after all, neither with the circular/oval bubble accessories... a spraybar works best. Check this info (has good pics) http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums...d.php?t=109900
Since I want some heavy rain effect, I will check on multiple shower heads (if we can complicate something simple, why not?)
Pepe
Santo Domingo | That's the spirit!!! I am going to complicate mine so you should complicate yours haha!
Thanks for finding out about the air stones.. guess it's just sticking with the current setup... though I do like the PVC (it's just too big for my hood). Quote: |
Where did you get such a neat idea?! I'd try it on my 47gal, but it would probabably be a bit noisy in my bedroom and be like a bombing raid for the hatchets!
| I was thinking of all the neat things I could do to add realism to my tank... and seeing the rain made me think it would be awesome to have it raining inside the tank..
It can be a bit noisy, and i'm not sure how the water hits.. but i don't think it's too hard.. haha I wonder how your hatchets would respond to it  | |
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August 11th, 2008
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| Experiment away guys and do my work for me
Unless the water is hitting hard enough to knock the hatchets around I don't think they would mind. The idea is- the water level has dropped over the winter now it's spring and the torrential rains are here washing copious food into the water and raising the levels. Boom! spawning everywhere.
My angels have always spawned better during storms. So I guess they feel the change in barometric pressure and instinct tells them soon its going to rain and there will be more food ?
Carol | |
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August 11th, 2008
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| yeah I'm realizing there is more to rain then just water falling..
I am going to try and get the Aqua Controller and see if I can set that up with my rainfall to see if I can set it up with the actual rain outside.. | |
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August 12th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Experiment away guys and do my work for me
Unless the water is hitting hard enough to knock the hatchets around I don't think they would mind. The idea is- the water level has dropped over the winter now it's spring and the torrential rains are here washing copious food into the water and raising the levels. Boom! spawning everywhere.
My angels have always spawned better during storms. So I guess they feel the change in barometric pressure and instinct tells them soon its going to rain and there will be more food ?
Carol | I think the larger hatchets might not mind, but perhaps some of the smaller species (Dwarfs etc.) would be thrown around like crazy! It would be really cool to have a rainfall stimulator on in perhaps 3 intervals during the day and lots of floating plants in case the hatchets don't feel happy with the 'rain'. What would be really cool is the rain comming down with a slightly different pH - if you think about amazon rain would probably be slightly higher in pH than the river water because it has not been exposed to peat and tannins like the river water! | |
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August 12th, 2008
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Originally Posted by HatchetHaven I think the larger hatchets might not mind, but perhaps some of the smaller species (Dwarfs etc.) would be thrown around like crazy! It would be really cool to have a rainfall stimulator on in perhaps 3 intervals during the day and lots of floating plants in case the hatchets don't feel happy with the 'rain'. What would be really cool is the rain comming down with a slightly different pH - if you think about amazon rain would probably be slightly higher in pH than the river water because it has not been exposed to peat and tannins like the river water! |
What you could do is set up a bucket with the powerhead in it... and have the hose attach to the powehead and travel into the auquarium..
and just use some of that PH raising stuff you get at the LFS to make it slightly higher. | |
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August 12th, 2008
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| very good idea. next time i do a water change to my 20gal i video it, so you can see the way i do my rain effect, very easy and dont need to spend money. | |
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August 12th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Dark_Rider2k3 What you could do is set up a bucket with the powerhead in it... and have the hose attach to the powehead and travel into the auquarium..
and just use some of that PH raising stuff you get at the LFS to make it slightly higher. | The pH raising/lowering stuff in my experience isn't that good (And in a normal tank a bad idea!) | |
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August 12th, 2008
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| Yeah lets don't mess with the ph guys ok?
I usually do a large water change in the breeding tanks just before it rains and have good luck but I still like the rain idea.
Carol | |
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