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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Suggestions
I'm kinda new to all of this, so I'm basically looking for any and all suggestions from any and everyone who can help. I have a 25 gal tank presently (I'm looking to upgrade soon) with 2 of each of the following Sharks: Rainbow, Albino Rainbow, Red Tail, Bala, and Colombian. I also have 1 Chinese Algae Eater, 1 Red Claw Crab, and several Ghost Shrimp. Believe it or not, they all get along great, except for the occasional chase. In the tank I have a couple of rock "caves" one live plant and one plastic plant. I couldn't give you specifics on the water, I haven't had it checked yet, I've had the tank running on three months now, and I know I should. The sharks seem to be doing fine, I add a water conditioner and a nitrate supplement once a week, I feed them only twice a day and I make sure the light is turned on for at least 5 hours a day (I have them sitting in a well lit area so I only turn it on when it is beginning to get dark). Any suggestions as to what I can and should not be doing to further promote their good health and well being? Any added supplements or anything else I can do? Any plant suggestions? I know, that's a lot to asking about in one shot, but I'd like my sharks to last for a long while! Thanks in advance! |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Welcome to fishlore!
Are all these fish juviniles?
And balas can get LARGE. They need at least a 90 gal. tank. |
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January 16th, 2009
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Thanks!
No, I bought them small, about an inch or so at the time, and they've only gained about, I'd say maybe another inch or so. I'm looking at maybe getting a 100 gal tank in the near future to hold everyone. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Wow, I'd love to have a 100 gal. 
The only worry I would have, would be that when they start to mature, they could get a little more aggressive. It's just something that you would have to watch for. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Thanks!
Loved the link, a lot of cool info in there!
Anything else I should know? |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Your aquarium info says that you don't know about the nitrogen cycle? Is your tank cycled? Do you know your water parameters?
Also, we would all love to see any pics of your tank that you may have.  |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | I'll get some up soon!
As for everything else, the tank is a used one, a friend had it for a couple of years, but no longer wanted it and was going to toss it. She had it just sitting in her garage for at least six months before my wife and I asked about it. We had it it for another couple of months before my wife bought me the sharks. We used the same gravel, washed thoroughly, she had Koi's, so I believe it had already cycled. As for the the parameters, I've never measured it, if that is what you mean. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | By parameters I mean, ammonia, nitrate & nitrite readings.
If the tank was sitting around for 6 months, then all the beneficial bacteria died.
It would be a good idea to purchase a test kit (the API Masterkit is a great one) and test your water. How often to you perform water changes? |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Oh! LOL! Can you tell I'm new at this? LOL!
I was told my local pet store, in this case PetSmart, could do that for me. Can they?
I haven't yet, I was also told that by adding the supplement that I could go, in the very least, 6 months before doing so. Would that be a good idea? Also, that I would only need to do like a 50 to 75% water change.
You've been so very helpful, I appreciate all your help very much!  |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | You'll see in this forum that large chain stores i.e. Petsmart, Petco, Wal Mart, are not favored. They ususally do not give honest readings, and will tell you that your tank is cycled when it's not.
As for the water changes, a 25 - 40% water change should be done weekly. Especially of your tank is not cycled, the ammonia could build up and kill the fish.
Plus, you have quite a few fish in a 25 gal., the ammonia can build up VERY fast. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Moderator | welcome to fishlore!!!
amanda is giving you great advice...the only few things id like to suggest is that down the line, if not yet, you will have major issues with that many rainbows and red tail sharks..they are super territorial and im very surprised they havent gotten into it majorly yet...were they all from the same tank? usually for a 30 gal, one is all that would be recommended...so deffinately keep a close eye on that...and also, get an api liquid master test kit if you can,,,relying on pet stores for water readings leads to selling you things you dont need, or selling you fish when a tank isnt ready....I wish you well and you joined a great forum with lots of helpful members  |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Quote:
Originally Posted by Amanda You'll see in this forum that large chain stores i.e. Petsmart, Petco, Wal Mart, are not favored. They ususally do not give honest readings, and will tell you that your tank is cycled when it's not.
As for the water changes, a 25 - 40% water change should be done weekly. Especially of your tank is not cycled, the ammonia could build up and kill the fish.
Plus, you have quite a few fish in a 25 gal., the ammonia can build up VERY fast. | Really? Wow, that is good to know!
So by buying this kit, it will let me know when to add what and so on? And, also, the treatments and supplements I've been adding won't keep all of that in check?
Weekly? I'll be sure to start doing that a.s.a.p. if not sooner! |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | What supplements are you adding?
most are un-needed and can cause stress to your fish. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnie welcome to fishlore!!!
amanda is giving you great advice...the only few things id like to suggest is that down the line, if not yet, you will have major issues with that many rainbows and red tail sharks..they are super territorial and im very surprised they havent gotten into it majorly yet...were they all from the same tank? usually for a 30 gal, one is all that would be recommended...so deffinately keep a close eye on that...and also, get an api liquid master test kit if you can,,,relying on pet stores for water readings leads to selling you things you dont need, or selling you fish when a tank isnt ready....I wish you well and you joined a great forum with lots of helpful members  | Yes, I was reading up on that too, but for some unexplainable reason, they seem to get along very well, except, like I mentioned earlier, for the occasional chase. And even that seems to be only about the time I'm about to feed them, after which they all seem to be relatively calm. They pretty much keep to themselves for whatever reasons! I kind of get a kick out of it!
Yes, Amanda has been very helpful with all her wonderful advise! I am very appreciative for it! |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Quote:
Originally Posted by Amanda What supplements are you adding?
most are un-needed and can cause stress to your fish. | Off the top of my head, I'm at work right now, I couldn't say, but after I bought them I researched them to find out exactly what they could and couldn't do. One is a water conditioner, the other is for the pH balance and a slime coat aid. I'll have to get all that info and check it out again, but that's about it. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | Those should be added after every water change.
A water conditioner will remove hard metals from water that are harmful to fish.
The slime coat will help the coats of the fish.
The pH balence is usally not recommended. It may fluctuate your pH and stress out the fish. |
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January 16th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum | Ok, all this info is really good to know, I was figuring that they we're doing ok so I didn't really need to do much.
So the ph balance should be ok as is? They all seem to be in the same ph range. And their all a rather lively bunch, that's good, isn't it? |
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