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Old May 21st, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Will these fish work together? Suggestions?

I recently bought a 75 gallon tank and over the summer I am going to set it up and everything. Lately I have been thinking of what fish I want to get, and I want to ask for suggestions/opinions from here.

I plan on getting a canister filter or 1-2 wheel filters so that i have about double the recommended amount of filtration. I plan on having some plants, pieces of driftwood and rocks for hiding.

HEre is what I really want to get:

- 3 or 4 Angel Fish

- 2 or 3 Clown Loach

- 2 or 3 Cory Cats

- 3-4 Fiddler Crabs

- 4-5 Bamboo Shrimp

So here is the list of stuff I really want. So my questions are: Do I have enough room for all of them? How much more room do I have?

Are these fish/critters compatible?

Any recommendations or suggestions about the set up?

Thanks,

J.D.
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Old May 21st, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
The guideline is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water and that is calculated by the size they will grow to...not when they are babies.

The only thing about Angelfish is that they will pair up eventually if you get male and female, lol! You wont know if and when they pair up. Then you have to proceed on what to do. But they are fine with what you want.

You need to have at least 3 Corys and 3 Clown Loaches for them to be happy. In that size tank I would get a school of 5 or more Corys. They are fun fish and always lookin for food! lol

I don't know anything about Crabs or Shrimp. Personally I think the Loaches and Corys would be enough for the bottom. Then you can add a school of something.....like Cherry Barbs. No Tiger Barbs...since you want Angels. Or you can go with a school of one of my favs, 3 Silver Dollars since you have a large tank. But then you can only get 1 Angelfish. They grow to about 6". Like the Angelfish. The eat plants though...the Silvers.

This is what I would do with that size tank!

5 Silver Dollars @ 6" = 30"
5 YoYo Loaches @ 6" = 30"
1 Angelfish @ 6"
1 Bristlenose Pleco @ 6"
Total: 72"


http://www.elmersaquarium.com/h701el...r_handbook.htm

Last edited by AlyeskaGirl; May 22nd, 2009 at 01:09 PM.
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Old May 21st, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Thanks for your input. My girlfriend likes silver dollars, so i might consider them as well. I had planned on dropping pellets for the bottom feeders because I would have so many.

Side note: Is your "alyeska" in Girdwood, Alaska? I am in Anchorage
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J2theD View Post
Side note: Is your "alyeska" in Girdwood, Alaska? I am in Anchorage
Your Welcome! I have 3 SD and I just love them!

No....I live down in Ketchikan! Alyeska is the name of my cat, lol!
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
that should be enough space. when you say 1 inch per gallon, AlyeskaGirl,

5 Silver Dollars 30"
5 YoYo Loaches 30"
1 Angelfish 6"
1 Bristlenose Pleco 6"
Total: 72"

wouldn't it be 312"? because 10 30" fish would be 300", so 300" per gallon. pr is each different species? i'm just curious.
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
30" is the combined lengths of the Silver Dollars and Yoyo's. Meaning each one is 6 inchs long fully grown. So 6" x 5 = 30"
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
oh, i was wondering they why they were so big, thanx.
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Moderator
 
Good morning. I just wanted to add that should you decide on one Cory Cat it will survive on it's own. True, as stated above they like to hang around together with members of their own kind and I would suggest at least trying more than one, but I've not had that luck in my tanks. I have a 7 or 8 year old Cory in my 155 and he's been having a wonderful time all these years by himself. I started out with 2 but one passed away many years ago.
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
i reckon the corys are fine as well, i have had a single danio by himself and he was fine. but i reckon schooling fish are a whole lot better in a group than a single specimen. i wouldn't like to be alone for my hole life.
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
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Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
that should be enough space. when you say 1 inch per gallon, AlyeskaGirl,

5 Silver Dollars 30"
5 YoYo Loaches 30"
1 Angelfish 6"
1 Bristlenose Pleco 6"
Total: 72"

wouldn't it be 312"? because 10 30" fish would be 300", so 300" per gallon. pr is each different species? i'm just curious.
Sorry about the confusion, lol! I fixed it in my post.
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
great advice from others....I just would like to add that a crab would be looking to catch any fish it could for a snack..so be very careful if you add one..epesically with loaches and cories..
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Thanks for the advice everyone.

As far as the fiddler crabs, my girlfriend has 2 in her 20 gallon and they are very peaceful, and hardly coordinated enough to catch a fish, haha. They are quite peaceful and rather harmless. She even feeds the male by putting a pellet in his claw when he come to the top of the log out of the water

I have heard cray fish can be rather nasty, which is too bad because I do like them...
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Old May 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
oh no sorry, it was my fault, AlyeskaGirl.

thanks
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Old September 13th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
Nice size tank!

First, if you have your heart set on Loaches do as AlyaskaGirl advised and go with YoYos. Clown Loaches reach 14 inches and would need at least a 200 gallon tank.

As for the rest Angels are great, I have 1 in my 30 gallon, but I wouldn't recommend getting 3 as 1 could end up being picked on. I would go with 4 or more.

Corydoras are awesome! Especially in sand substrate they are little diggers and are fun to watch in schools of 6+. I prefer to keep them in schools of at least 8, their antics are always a source of entertainment.

Silver Dollars are fun, I haven't had them but my brother loves them. If you want real plants it can be tricky. There are certain hardy/tough plants they don't eat as much but i cant remember what!

Bamboo Shrimp and Crabs I'm no help with. Haven't had either, but I have put Ghost Shrimp in some of my clients tanks and have always had to start with about 20 to ensure some survived the attach of the Angels (both clients had Angelfish). I don't know how large bamboo shrimp are but chances are Angels will grow large enough to consider them food. So lots of plants and hiding places would be good. As well as sand substrate for digging, shrimp like to dig.

When it comes to stocking I very seldom hold to the 1 inch rule as its more a guideline for beginners. But I have just found a great tool to determine your tanks capacity. Go here and have fun!

http://www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php
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Old September 13th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
This thread is old, I'm sure the OP has an answer.
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