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Old September 14th, 2009  
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Is this ich or not?

From reading the fishlore articles on ICH and this thread, I think I'm doing the right thing, but wanted a second opinion.

72 G tank with one cat (mainly to start the cycle on August 1) and a Paratheraps Bifasciatus about 6 - 7 inches. Everything has been fine in the tank up till a couple days ago.

The Bifa has a bunch of white spots, mostly around the left eye, but one on the right, too. He has been in the tank for about a month.

Water has been very stable. Temp 78F, pH 7.6, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 10. Weekly water changes.

I have increased the water temp to 84F and added an airstone to compensate for the increased temp.

I purchased "ICH-X" made by Aquarium Solutions but have not added it yet. What are your thoughts on what I have done so far and whether or not I should add the medicine?
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Old September 14th, 2009  
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From reading the fishlore articles on ich and this thread, I think I'm doing the right thing, but wanted a second opinion.

72 G tank with one cat (mainly to start the cycle on August 1) and a Paratheraps Bifasciatus about 6 - 7 inches. Everything has been fine in the tank up till a couple days ago.

The Bifa has a bunch of white spots, mostly around the left eye, but one on the right, too. He has been in the tank for about a month.

Water has been very stable. Temp 78F, pH 7.6, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 10. Weekly water changes.

I have increased the water temp to 84F and added an airstone to compensate for the increased temp.

I purchased "ICH-X" made by Aquarium Solutions but have not added it yet. What are your thoughts on what I have done so far and whether or not I should add the medicine?
I would give the temps 2 weeks to work..2 gravel vacs a week also....meds and fish dont usually mix well and most always kill the cycle....great looking fish btw!!

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One platy dead this morning :-(
have you turned up the temps and done the other things jerry? sorry for the loss
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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From reading the fishlore articles on ich and this thread, I think I'm doing the right thing, but wanted a second opinion.

72 G tank with one cat (mainly to start the cycle on August 1) and a Paratheraps Bifasciatus about 6 - 7 inches. Everything has been fine in the tank up till a couple days ago.

The Bifa has a bunch of white spots, mostly around the left eye, but one on the right, too. He has been in the tank for about a month.

Water has been very stable. Temp 78F, pH 7.6, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 10. Weekly water changes.

I have increased the water temp to 84F and added an airstone to compensate for the increased temp.

I purchased "ICH-X" made by Aquarium Solutions but have not added it yet. What are your thoughts on what I have done so far and whether or not I should add the medicine?

Idk about anyone else...but that doesn't look like ich to me. I'm not sure what that is.
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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Idk about anyone else...but that doesn't look like ich to me. I'm not sure what that is.
the pic wasnt coming up when I commented but I agree that looks different for sure....its more raised and more cyst like..unless the pic is super enlarged?
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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That's what I was thinking - they look like cysts.
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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I did not enlarge the pics. I did zoom in to focus on that area. When I get home tonight, I will post a couple more pics to see if that helps.
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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ich is more like grains of salt ...not really raised as much so maybe its just a great camera...are the temps raised and such? is he doing any better?
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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I did not enlarge the pics. I did zoom in to focus on that area. When I get home tonight, I will post a couple more pics to see if that helps.
Ive moved your thread out of jerrys thread as I know you dont have a 20 gal with this issue and it might help members know more of whats going on with your tank...mixing it up with jerrys might confuse (me especially)
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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Skin Flukes maybe? Not ICH nor Velvet for sure.
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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Agreed that it isn't ICH. I wish I could tell you more. Best wishes to you and your fish. I hope it's going to be alright. Sure is a beauty!
Keep us posted.
Here is a link you may find helpful:
JBL - Online Hospital just to let you know there are some graphic photos of sick fish at this link.
Ken
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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No real change from yesterday. Here are some more pics that may help. By looking at it closely, the white dots are MAYBE 1mm max (not diameter, but depth). There is also that little patch where the scales seem to be gone above the "dotted" area.

Any more thoughts? Should I leave the temp up if it might not be ich?
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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wow im not really sure what it is....he is one amazing fish ...the warmer temps might not hurt anything but you deffinately need extra aeration ..but im not sure it will help either....im stumped and I so hope other members might have more info!!!!!!! see if this link will help at all http://www.fishlore.com/Disease.htm I wish you a ton of luck!
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Old September 15th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Wow... i have never seen anything like it.. it is DEFFINATELY not ICH. It seems like some sort of pimple...

beautiful fish BTW, i jope things work out for you
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Old September 15th, 2009  
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After reading the JBL site and the disease section here on fishlore, I figure it has got to be:
1. a fungal infection. One of the spots has a piece of...something...coming out from the center of it. Not to be gross, but it almost looks like an adolescent pimple that is out of control.
2. Parasitic infection. If not ich, then one of the others mentioned.

The characteristics I am observing are more consistent with a parasite than any thing else but I am going to continue my home work.

Thank you for all the help (KEEP IT COMING ) I just hope I can figure it our before it is too late.
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Old September 16th, 2009  
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Good morning. I'm just grabbing at straws here but is there a possibility that it could be Hole In The Head Disease that Oscars are prone too (and other fish as well). Check out these two links just so we can rule it out for sure. Hole In The Head usually creates craters where your fish has protrusions. Keep us posted!
Ken
Oscar Fish Disease - Hole in the Head Disease | treatments medications cure
Cause and Treatment for HITH/HLLE
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Old September 16th, 2009  
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hmmm great suggestion ken but it doesnt look like that either...at least not in the form ive seen it..but i guess anything is possible......im going to see if lucy or sds can look at this thread and maybe recommend something...I know they have knowledge about gram negative / positive type of meds..im clueless with meds...
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Old September 16th, 2009  
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Hi vamedic11 Welcome to FishLore
You have a beautiful fish. Unfortunatly, I can't be much help here.
I'm not sure what it is.
Are there any other tank mates? Do they have symptoms?
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Old September 16th, 2009  
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bumping to try to get more members opinions! Im so hoping we can figure this out!
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