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July 25th, 2008
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| Day 4 of treatment and time to retreat again. Everyone is holding there own. | 
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July 25th, 2008
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| My obervations so far:
~Betta seem to get affected faster than other fish species
~The smaller/older the fish the easier affected
~It take months for the worms to show if at all
Symptoms In my Betta:
~ repetative fin rot issues: tearing fins, holes and chunks of fin fall off
~swollen vent/anus, adominal area or gills
~1-3 days prior to death lose in color and letharigc, hiding, sitting on bottom
~red thread like worms stickingoutof anus/vent
With my betta they all had different things happen:
1.Jasper suddenly lost color and was lethargic 2 days later he was gone.
2. Mr. Peach same thing.
3. Holly was bloated since I got her
4. Aries died suddenly the same day as Holly
5. Buster died the day after, he had fin rot going on for bit
6. Casper looked fine but a bit bloated, was gone 2 days later
7. Sebastian fin rots for months, suddenly Lethargic & bloated, with lessions on side gone 2 days after.
Symptoms in other Fish:
None in Diamond tetra
Keyhole Cichlids
~female had septicemia cured with Maracyn Two In March
~1st male Keyhole had a swollen anus, red worms but it went away. He got drospy, pineconed and we lost him
~2nd male Keyhole had swollen anus,and worms. Read about removing them with tweezers and cleaning wound with peroxide. Has been doing well since, thin looking tho. Wound healed,. Added salt 5ml per 5g to tank. Prazi Pro has been added too.
Last edited by Allie; July 25th, 2008 at 12:43 PM.
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July 25th, 2008
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Last edited by Allie; July 25th, 2008 at 01:44 PM.
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July 25th, 2008
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| Did the re treatment this afternoon. The Betta are doing really well.
JB's gills are not inflamed.  Prince, Felix and Sunny aren't bloated anymore.
Smokey, my male angelfish expelled all kinds of poop, funky looking stuff. Now his tummy looks thinner.
Is it possible that certain fish are easily affected by these worms?  Like certain people get cancer?
My female angelfish, Ziggy seems completely unaffected as does the WB Datnoid, Scooby.
Everyone is showing major improvements.  | |
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July 26th, 2008
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| Saturday morning and everyone: betta, angelfish and keyholes are all showing huge improvements. All swollen anal areas are normal again. Woo hoo!! Felix has a bit of fin rot...but he is the only one not to have fin issues until now. Hopefully it's just from the treatment and his fins will be perfect again.
I hope this med works for us, it seems to be as of so far.
The parasite should be gone once we disinfect ALL of the tanks...got 2 done now.
This whole process is a pain in the butt, but if we can save this fish affect by the c.worms it is totally worth it.
I mean where am I going to find Betta like Sunny, Prince and Felix again? Our LFS hardly has HM/delta tail, or anything besides veil tail or crown tail betta. They all have such sweet personalities, like my poor Casper RIP...I really will be heart broken if I lose any of my last 4 guys. JB and I have a good conection, even tho he isn't te prettiest guy I have had.
Heather is going to Maine tomorrow and she offered to get Levimasol, if she could find it. It's another med that we can't get here in Cnd. It is supose to be the most effective med on callamanus worms.
Meds with these names in it are suppose to be go to treat c. worms
Praziquantel (Prazi pro) useless on c.worms
Levamisole
Mebendoazole
Piperazine
Trichlorfon
Niclosamide
Last edited by Allie; August 17th, 2008 at 12:43 PM.
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July 26th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| Yea, I hope you don't lose any of them. It's encouraging that you're seeing some positive results already. | |
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July 26th, 2008
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by COBettaCouple  Yea, I hope you don't lose any of them. It's encouraging that you're seeing some positive results already. | Yeah it is considering other people on other forums aren't or did have any results with Prazi pro.
The only fish we may lose is the keyhole male...he is very skinny. But every now & then he flirts with the female.
Just like any man when their sick, I guess.  | |
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July 26th, 2008
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| Here's the male angelfish's err privates up close: | |
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July 26th, 2008
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| Look at the fin growth on Prince All the thinner parts on his tail is re growth.
Look at JB, before was a month ago(he looked bloated then too) now is today. | |
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July 26th, 2008
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| So the Betta and angels maybe getting better.
But as of 1 minute ago when I fed the keyholes...Luis my male was hiding, not interested in the food at all & his tummy is bloated. Now he may be just filling up with dead worms. eww!! I hope he can pass it soon. He was so skinny this morning.
If he cannot pass them he could get dropsy and die....off to get maracyn two just in case he is still bloated or worse by the morning. | |
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July 27th, 2008
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| The keyhole is looking much better today. He must have passed whatever made him bloated yesterday. He still hides a lot and that's what the first guy did before he pine coned.
I am really getting sick of the smell of bleach, I tell you what. I ran out of hand sanitizer so I replace it with a water/bleach solution. My hands are the cleanest in town right now, lol. | |
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July 27th, 2008
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| I just wanted to add that obviously callamanus worms are RARE, but when you get them...you get them. If your fish has definite red thread like worms...treat with Prazi or one of the meds mentioned right away. These thing take a long time to get rid of.
Be prepared mentally that treatment could go on for months. But we are retreating until all fish look normal 100%. Even if we have to spend another $27.11 on Prazi pro.
It's hasn't been a week yet but MY fish are showing good signs of improvement. On another forum one girl is on her second treatment and her fish still aren't showing signs like mine are. | |
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July 27th, 2008
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| A thought just occurred to me:
My 33g has been set up since before Christmas and our 120g since November 2006. Totally established tanks, gone...out the window. 
With this parasite you have to disinfect everything from the nets, decorations, rocks, thermometers, heaters, filters(throw out the old media), any aquarium accessories you have used. We have to start all 9 tanks from scratch. We have 2 done and we need to get our new one soon so we can put the fish in them to disinfect the ones they are being treating now.  This is making a tad be cranky. | |
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July 27th, 2008
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| Felix and the keyholes...pix from today. 
Look Felix has a red wash in his re growth.
I think once he heals up he's going to have more colors and longer fins.
My male keyhole is the same color as the female again. Oh please let this be permanent with everyone's progress. BTW he is suppose to be BIGGER than the female. The parasites stunted his growth. 
Last edited by Allie; July 27th, 2008 at 04:00 PM.
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July 28th, 2008
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| Still healing up what not...still see some worms coming out of Felix and Sunny, but there are coming and dying. I'll keep treating until I see no sign of worms. I hope next treatment...Wednesday will be the last for these two. Everyone else looks good. | |
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July 30th, 2008
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| So the betta ALL still are expelling worms and what not...this is day 2 of the 3rd treatment. Everyone is still improving other fronts.
Mmmm...Felix has a torn fin, probably from his visits with Sunny boy. 
Today was pea day, the boys do love their peas. I should see some real interesting poo later. The life of a fish keeper...I'd still rather do this than change dirty diapers.  ANY day. | |
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July 31st, 2008
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| JB is acting odd today. Like he isn't all here. ODD! He is the only one who really hasn't passed much worms. I am a bit worried b/c he is an older fish & he has been exposed to this since March when I got him. He does look better but something is off today.
Felix and Sunny have a huge amount of adult worms coming of them. Prince looks awesome this morning.
On the Prazi bottle it says: Retreat no more than 3-5 days after the first. I treated them a second time 4 days after the first one. Then another 4 days later I am treating them for the 3rd time...but this time I am letting it sit for the whole 5 days this time. If I have to retreat so be it. As long as I see improvement while the worms are still hanging around...they will be treated. I just hope a third time is a charm. | |
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August 1st, 2008
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| There are NO worms hanging out of anyone this morning. Hopefully this is the last time they will have to be treated.
Jellybean is still acting weird. I am going to do a water change today on his tank to see if that perkens him up. | |
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August 3rd, 2008
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| You should see the worms coming out of Felix, Prince and Sunny  It must be the last of them trying to escape from the Prazi Pro. The boys are doing fine.
I read that the treatment could take months. Depending on how healthy the fish is to begin with, the treatment may kill them. There has got to be 5-7 worms sticking out of Felix, he is swimming around like nothing is happening.
JB is hiding and not being active at all. He must has something going on. His fins are rotting on the ends a bit. Treating him with a fungus cure. If he doesn't perken up, after the treatment, should I treat him again for c.worms?
At least the other 3 are doing well.
My male keyhole has been looking odd so I am retreating him again as a precaution. I hope I am doing the right thing. I don't want to over treat them...especially if I see no signs of worms. I really don't know what else to do poor the little guy.  | |
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August 4th, 2008
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| I came to a conclusion. 
Male fish seem to be easily infect by callamanus worms. My male Keyhole and angel, all my male betta are still showing sign of still having them. All tanks being treated again.
I read that it take a c.worm from larvae to adult 6-8 wks. So I have only been treating 2 weeks so far. I may have to treat for another 4-6 weeks. Prazi pro seem to kill the ADULT c. worms, not the larvae. So if your fish is healthy/tough enough to handle the long treatment...you can kill the c.worms.
When the adult worms are dying they come out the fish's anus. 2-6 at a time, stiff looking & red. 1-2 days later, they become brown, thin and limp. Then disappear. The fish's anus is swollen up to 3 days after the worms are gone.
Hope fully in a month I will still have all my boys.
Felix a few days ago.
Last edited by Allie; August 4th, 2008 at 11:25 AM.
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August 4th, 2008
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucy  Gosh Allie, you and your fish are fighting a long hard battle.
Thanks for the updates and the pictures, this sticky will be invaluable to anyone suspecting camallanus worms in their fish. | The good part is all my betta boys look good apart from the worms.
Good thing this parasite isn't common. | |
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August 5th, 2008
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| This is getting ridiculous!!
Last night our Datnoid Scooby got ICH suddenly. We moved him to a sick tank, he started gasping for air...he was gone this morning.
I am soooo confused?!? This fish showed NO signs of illness what so ever until the ich? Is it related to the C.worms? He was expose to the keyholes the whole time we have had them. 
How, what why? What are we going to do with the 120g a SW or what?
My bf is upset about his Scooby so am I. We've had him for a year now, and he is gone.
This is almost enough to make us stop keeping personal tank and just have our breedery/store.  | |
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August 5th, 2008
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| BIG VENT!! The more I read about c. worms the more I am getting discouraged.
Most people take the lazy route and euthanize all the fish in the infected tanks.  I can't do it!!! We've only been treating for 2 weeks and they've been exposed for 6 months. It's going to take awhile to completely get rid of these persistent buggers. These fish are my pets especially my betta and angelfish <whom I've grown out for 1.5 yrs now. My Plecos I have had for 2 yrs almost.
Prince and JB are the ONLY ones who had the worms who show no signs of a swollen anal area. The rest are still wormy. Eww!
Felix and Sunny have worms but they look as tho they are dying or drying up.
This is really hard on the heart. I hope we don't lose any more fish babies.
I know the African cichlids are fine, they weren't exposed. There was no reason that they'd be near the other fish.
None of the plecos or otos are showing signs of infection (yet). The blue panaque, clown and snowball were all with the keyhole for a long time. They seem fine.
My question is this the fish plague on some level?
I am so upset today, that it'd be easy to just give up and start all over. BUT when it comes to my pets I don't give up unless I have no choice. Right now everyone is showing improvements on other levels. The betta except Felix are having a good growth rate on their fins.
*if I had of properly disinfected that 5g I treated the keyholes in back in March, my betta boys and girl RIP Holly would haven't been exposed either* | |
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August 7th, 2008
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| JB is looking awful again...he can't sit down at the bottom. He just floats around. I think he is going be another victim of these blasted parasites. 
I beginning to think that Prazi Pro may be a waste of money. The other 3 betta still have worms sticking out of their anus. We have no other cures available here levmisol we can get from the US. I really don't know what else to do...some fish seem OK then die...some are sick for months then die. Are the fish I have now which been exposed to the parasite just dead fish swimming?
I wonder if the PP is just prolonging the fish lives and not killing the worms
4th treatment today....need another bottle of PP.
Everywhere I read it says to euthanize all fish in contact with c.worms.  I can't do it...I'd rather give them the best life I can until they die.
I am having a very frustrated day. | |
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August 8th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| Allie. Wish we knew a way to help more, but you're doing the best for them and we appreciate the care you're giving them all. | |
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August 8th, 2008
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| That is terrible
I really hope something good happens out of all of this... You've been fighting this for a long time and it's been rough..
I'm sorry to hear about all of this | |
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August 8th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Dark_Rider2k3 That is terrible
I really hope something good happens out of all of this... You've been fighting this for a long time and it's been rough..
I'm sorry to hear about all of this | Thanks, it's a mess here...sick tanks everywhere. | |
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August 8th, 2008
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Originally Posted by COBettaCouple Allie. Wish we knew a way to help more, but you're doing the best for them and we appreciate the care you're giving them all. | I appreciate hearing that. Sometimes efforts feel futile | |
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