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December 28th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper | Older post I know Quote:
Originally Posted by clinton1621 SyrenFranco....
The peeling and loss of scales was most likely due to the peroxide, have you ever poured any on your skin and noticed your skin turn white? Fish have a protective "slime coat" over their entire body that keeps infections at bay.... the peroxide essentially destroyed this (although it did probably kill the ICH as well) but without a slimecoat he most likely developed a secondary external infection, so thats why the powder you used (probably triple sulfa) saved him from dying. Seeing as how you had him 4 months previous to the ich then he almost certainly didnt have iridiovirus though... feel free to kick your friend for almost killing your gourami though lol! | I just wanted to correct that. The peroxide didn't cause that effect in the fish. I use Hydrogen Peroxide in my aquariums with no ill effects,at 10ppm. Swabbing a diseased fish with peroxide is an excellent way to get rid of parasites/bacteria and fungus infections (external). sirdarksol
Do you have the link to the article from the main topic of this post? The links listed don't appear to be working. I was curious as to the connection of the iridovirus and your theory about 'species jumping'. I don't believe the iridovirus can 'species jump' except in very closely related species to the original host such as anabantids. Iridovirus is a highly specialised virus,that attacks the original host,produces it's spore,releases it into the water,waits for the suitable host and the cycle begins again. Iridovirus hosted by cichlids can't infect bettas,virus hosted by cichlids can't infect plecos and so on.
***EDIT*** The links are working now and after reading them,I see it's not the specific Iridovirus I was thinking. It's a class of Iridoviruses known as Megalocytivirus, (DNA based viruses) never mind,confusion cleared up.
Is there any updates to this? Are the species 'clean' now or are there still large cases still popping up? Last edited by soldieroffortune1974; December 28th, 2008 at 03:02 AM.
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February 8th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | dwarf gourami sickness This disease is very common in dwarf gouramis, and has no known treatment. I had a DG and lost it to this. I ended up adding some clove oil and euthanizing it instead of letting it waste away. This same illness can be caught by mollys. WATCH OUT FOR THIS!!! |
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February 10th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Pleco101, how long ago was this?
I was actually just going to ask if anyone has had a dwarf gourami die of unusual circumstances in the past month. If not, I'm going to de-sticky this thread, I think, since it seems to no longer be an emergent issue. |
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May 23rd, 2009
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| | Moderator | Thread is being unstuck. I've heard no reports of unusual DG deaths recently, so I'm guessing the epidemic is over (though this doesn't mean the virus isn't out there. It's still a really good idea to quarantine all of your fish when you get them). |
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May 23rd, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor | Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdarksol Thread is being unstuck. I've heard no reports of unusual DG deaths recently, so I'm guessing the epidemic is over (though this doesn't mean the virus isn't out there. It's still a really good idea to quarantine all of your fish when you get them). | Cool. I haven't seen any sickly looking labyrinth fish recently either.  |
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June 18th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie | Just found this thread. I just lost my Powder Blue DG last Sunday, that would be June 14 after only having him for 3 weeks. I'm now wondering if it was this virus. He got lithargic a day before and really wasn't eating much. I also noticed the distended stomach and a darker patch on his lower abdomin before he died. |
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June 24th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper | I was just wondering about this to actually. I had bought a DG 2 or 3 months ago and it died within a week of getting it, and it was healthy when I got it. Has anyone else had any better luck with these fish? |
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June 24th, 2009
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| | Moderator | I got mine in March, so far so good. |
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June 24th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Quote:
Originally Posted by Butters I was just wondering about this to actually. I had bought a DG 2 or 3 months ago and it died within a week of getting it, and it was healthy when I got it. Has anyone else had any better luck with these fish? | getting a test kit, and not thinking every disease could be what your fish had, will help you in the long run.. its an investment that you never will be sorry for once you have it..the API liquid master kit will do 100's of tests for you and it has everything you need  |
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July 7th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper | I lost one DG last week and he other one today. I just now found one of my red eye tetras dead at the botom of the tank. I found one dead yesterday, but I thought it had gotten stuck behind the breeder box and that had killed him. Now I am not so sure what to think. One other tetra has a white spot above his mouthbut he acts o.k. I really don't know what to do about quarantine now. I have two pregnant fish in my other tank that I usually use for quarantine. I was hoping it was just the two gauramis that had whatever is going around and that would be it. I guess I will play the waiting game and hope for the best. |
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July 8th, 2009
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Originally Posted by summersquash I lost one DG last week and he other one today. I just now found one of my red eye tetras dead at the botom of the tank. I found one dead yesterday, but I thought it had gotten stuck behind the breeder box and that had killed him. Now I am not so sure what to think. One other tetra has a white spot above his mouthbut he acts o.k. I really don't know what to do about quarantine now. I have two pregnant fish in my other tank that I usually use for quarantine. I was hoping it was just the two gauramis that had whatever is going around and that would be it. I guess I will play the waiting game and hope for the best. | As far as I'm aware Iridovirus only effected gouramis and bettas nit tetras.
it sound slike you may have something else going on.
I would suggest you start a new thread and post a pic of your tetra, see if the members can help figure out whats going on.
Good luck |
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September 14th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Bumping this thread as there seems to be a potential concern about the virus. |
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September 14th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Thanks SDS. It seems like several members (including myself) have had problems with them lately. |
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September 14th, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor | I don't know if this will help or not, but we bought a dwarf gourami on 07-10-09 for my daughter's tank. He died on 07-18-09. I keep records of all of my tanks. The tank had been cycled for a little over a month or two. We knew about the virus when we bought him, but we thought we'd try it and see if we lucked out. We didn't and since we knew the tank was cycled, we've refused to buy any more. |
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September 14th, 2009
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| | Moderator | Added Lucy's link to the list of links in the first post.
BolivianBaby, I'm copying your post to the thread asking about the issue, so that I can get a count of the number of sick DGs we've had in the past few months. Thanks for sharing. |
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September 14th, 2009
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| | Fish Master | I know its an old thread, but this has me worried. My Hobo ( My new Blue DG) has bee with me for 3 days. He is by far very active, though i dont know why i feel concerned. Are there any visible signs before the letharginess and the anemia kick in? For example, not sure if this is bad, but i thought it was different. He has black lips... is that bad? not like badly black, but just dark... is that a sign? |
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September 14th, 2009
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| | Moderator | As far as I know, the lethargy is the first visible sign. Sadly, there is very, very little that can be done about this disease other than properly quarantining new fish (and even that won't help if the fish came to you sick). How this starts is that the distribution people (I believe there is one huge one in India that is responsible for the majority of DG sales into the aquarium trade) put a whole bunch of the fish together, and one of them has this virus. After that, it's like any metropolitan area during an influenza epidemic.
The last time, it seemed like the problem was dealt with because people stopped buying DGs. Stores were losing money, so they stopped ordering them. Thus, the distribution folks had to isolate the ill fish, thus solving the problem.
It's possible that they have since gotten lazy and started the pandemic again. |
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