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March 26th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| What is wrong? HELP!
  My poor baby male bn pleco. His tail looks like someone tore him up. He was in the fry tank with the female bn pleco who is much bigger than he is. Can they hurt each other like that, or is it something else  He is breathing heavy and was too easy to catch.
Here are some pixs. Can anyone help me out here? I have him in the sick tank, just did a water changes a few hours ago. Does he need to be treated? What can plecos be treated with. I am all in a panick he looks terrible. | 
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March 26th, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor
| Allie, Poor little baby....you could use Maracyn-Two on him...it is really hard to tell how bad it is, though he seems quite brused...
If there is an internal infection, the Maracyn-two should help, and it is absorbed through the skin. Hope this helps. | |
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March 27th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| tried to look up some things,,,only thing that looks like it that I found was inflamation which is treated (right on sustina) over the counter antibiotics and Maracyn two is great. the description for infamation was reddening on or under skin, sudden abnormal behavior. I'll keep looking for you. Make sure he has good air flow and filtration (no carbon).
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internet description:
BACTERIAL INFECTION
Symptoms: Cloudy eyes, open sores (ulcers) on the body or lateral lines, abscesses, rotting or inflammation (reddening) of the skin, fins or internal organs, bulging eyes or rapid breathing are all symptoms of a bacterial disease.
Treatment: Fish with bacterial diseases should be treated in a separate hospital tank. The best medication is a broad spectrum gram negative antibiotic such as nitrofuran or kanamycin sulfate.It is real important that you give the full recommended treatment as well as for the full treatment period to prevent the disease from reoccurring. If you have a ultraviolet light, it should be left on in the main tank to help control the spread of the disease.
P.S. So sorry you both are going through this  !
Last edited by kra-z-fishmumm; March 27th, 2008 at 01:16 AM.
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March 27th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Man I could not get back on the forum yesterday. GRR. It looks like he was burnt. He must have stayed too close to the heater. But I will get some maracyn 2 today while I am out. It looks like it is infected tho. I feel so bad for hi,.  | |
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March 27th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| I think it's probably what SF suggested. I've seen our little LFBN albino young and they do like the heater (food), but seem to dart off pretty quick if it goes on so the heater is possible, but seems less likely.
Really clean water, liquid vitamins, fish protector, even garlic boost could help his healing but it looks like it could be necessary to treat him with antibiotics like Maracyn-Two.
Fish Protector enhances the antibiotics effectiveness, so hopefully you can get some of it. | |
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March 27th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by COBettaCouple  I think it's probably what SF suggested. I've seen our little LFBN albino young and they do like the heater (food), but seem to dart off pretty quick if it goes on so the heater is possible, but seems less likely.
Really clean water, liquid vitamins, fish protector, even garlic boost could help his healing but it looks like it could be necessary to treat him with antibiotics like Maracyn-Two.
Fish Protector enhances the antibiotics effectiveness, so hopefully you can get some of it. | I wonder how he got it to begin with? Good thing I am going to the LFS soon. | |
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Master Of Fish Poo!
| It's sometimes a mystery how they get things. Mickey's got popeye - even though his tank is kept very clean. I think it's a secondary infection from the fin damage he gave himself showing off for Chloe.
I wish you the best of luck with your little guy.  | |
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by COBettaCouple It's sometimes a mystery how they get things. Mickey's got popeye - even though his tank is kept very clean. I think it's a secondary infection from the fin damage he gave himself showing off for Chloe.
I wish you the best of luck with your little guy. | Thanks. He looks a bit better. | |
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Moderator
| Yep Bn's can really tear each other up sometimes but it's usually the female. Good luck, keep us posted how the little guy is doing.
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Yep Bn's can really tear each other up sometimes but it's usually the female. Good luck, keep us posted how the little guy is doing.
Carol | That was my first instinct about the situation...she IS double his size. They do eat wood, so why not each  other too.
Here's some pix of the poor lil' guy today.
Last edited by Allie; March 28th, 2008 at 08:31 PM.
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March 28th, 2008
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| Looks like she has caused him to dash himself against something. Poor fella.
How old are the fry?
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly Looks like she has caused him to dash himself against something. Poor fella.
How old are the fry?
Carol | Only 3-4 days old. I feel bad for him. | |
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March 28th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Allie Only 3-4 days old. I feel bad for him. | The reason I asked is that our males were always so protective of the fry even up until they were a week old that we started lifting the cave with dad and eggs out and into a small tank of their own. He would chase all the others and get torn up and tear others up. Even though mom would lay her eggs and go on her merry way he would still jump out and attack her if she swam by.
maybe yours perceived a threat to the fry and took on more than he could handle.
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
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Originally Posted by Butterfly The reason I asked is that our males were always so protective of the fry even up until they were a week old that we started lifting the cave with dad and eggs out and into a small tank of their own. He would chase all the others and get torn up and tear others up. Even though mom would lay her eggs and go on her merry way he would still jump out and attack her if she swam by.
maybe yours perceived a threat to the fry and took on more than he could handle.
Carol | It's african cichlid fry not bn fry. I wish it was bn fry. | |
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March 28th, 2008
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| Ahh. My bad sorry. please disregard the previous post LOL
Carol | |
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March 28th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
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Originally Posted by Butterfly Ahh. My bad sorry. please disregard the previous post LOL
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March 30th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
| Hi Allie!! Sorry I missed this post. I'm not used to the new look yet...
Glad to know he's getting better now.. I just want to know if these 2 (smaller male and bigger female) are on the same batch you got from me. I'm trying to figure out if they are, the male should have much longer bristles by now if it's really a male. | |
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March 30th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
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Originally Posted by FishnFry Hi Allie!! Sorry I missed this post. I'm not used to the new look yet...
Glad to know he's getting better now.. I just want to know if these 2 (smaller male and bigger female) are on the same batch you got from me. I'm trying to figure out if they are, the male should have much longer bristles by now if it's really a male. | Yup they are both yours. My luck it's probably a female with horns. Good thing we're getting more from you eh? | |
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March 30th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
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Originally Posted by Allie Yup they are both yours. My luck it's probably a female with horns. Good thing we're getting more from you eh? | The reason I ask is because I have a male here that I thought would have come from that same batch and here's his picture below.  | |
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March 30th, 2008
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Originally Posted by FishnFry The reason I ask is because I have a male here that I thought would have come from that same batch and here's his picture below. |
Oh my we have two females I think. Darn. 
Last edited by Allie; March 30th, 2008 at 10:58 AM.
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March 30th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Poor little guy I hope he feels better soon... | |
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March 30th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Allie Oh my we have two females I think. Darn. | Sent you an email. | |
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March 30th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| SHE, is looking great today. The redness seems to be gone, at least from the angle I can see. | |
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March 30th, 2008
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| That's good news Allie! Great to that. | |
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April 1st, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor
| Hey Allie, the poor girl looks bad, shame! Glad to she's doing better! | |
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April 1st, 2008
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| | Fish Master
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Originally Posted by Sabi Hey Allie, the poor girl looks bad, shame! Glad to she's doing better! | All there is left now is a little white part...all the scales are back to brown.
That freaked me out a bit. | |
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