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Old June 7th, 2007  
Fish Addict
 
No idea what is wrong...

Well i just tried to fined the water testing kit. I found it but not the instructions so no numbers guys sory....

Its a 20g. Its curently very cloudy. I have been having a problem with fish dying lately but i have no idea what i wrong with them...
Tank is at 82F. Here are come pictures:
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Since my LFS is going out of bisness they are selling there medication cheep. I picked some up E.M. tablets and a General care one (Parasite controle). Should I use theas? I also have primafix.
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Old June 7th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

From what I can make out, it looks like fin rot. I use Melafix on my fish(other than the female bettas) and it works fine. I don't really know what those med's are so I can't help you there.
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Old June 7th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

Thats the last thing i would say it is. THe fish have all there fins nothing is missing. Sory the camera is not better.
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Old June 7th, 2007  
Tom
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

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Originally Posted by leafgirl115
Thats the last thing i would say it is. THe fish have all there fins nothing is missing. Sory the camera is not better.
Okay, it just looked like fin rot from the angel and lighting. Great pics though.
Tom
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Old June 7th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

It looks like that 20g is overstocked and the fish in it are big poopers, so you probably have water chemistry issues. that cloudiness looks like the result of high ammonia, but i could be wrong. does the tank have a smell to it?

do you know the maker of your water testing kit? if you do and can tell us what colors you get in the tubes for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate, that might help track down the problem. I'd recommend treating the tank with prime after at least a 50% water change, followed by 25% water changes daily. The gravel could use vacuumed/cleaned every couple of days - it's amazing how much poop they'll leave around.

what colors are the gills on the fish who've died? i'd hold off on meds until you can determine if water chemistry is the issue. Meds with bad water levels could be more harm than good.
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Old June 8th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

The guils look fine on the ones who have died. Its a Master test kit for pH, Ammonia, Nitrite and KH/GH....
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Old June 8th, 2007  
Fish Mentor
 
Re: No idea what is wrong...

I agree with FLBettaCouple...the tank looks overstocked, which could be causing water quality issues. Try the 50% water change, and definately try to get some readings on the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate.
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Old June 8th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

I am loking all over the house for the instructions.... And i have homes lined up for 15 mollies. Is it ok to re-home them?
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Old June 9th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

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I am loking all over the house for the instructions.... And i have homes lined up for 15 mollies. Is it ok to re-home them?
it should be fine, just have their new owners acclimate them to their new tanks. is it an API kit or are you not sure of who made it? it may say on the bottle labels.. do you have the color charts for the tests? they're often little cards and seperate from the instruction manual.
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Old June 9th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

I dont have the charts as they were atached to the instructions.... Its made by Hagen.
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Old June 9th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
Re: No idea what is wrong...

That pleco is enormous! You should have only the pleco and maybe 6 Mollies in there and nothing more. I don't think getting rid of only 15 fish will help. That tank is heavily overstocked! The fish are dying from stress and ammonia poisoning probably. Keep the Mollies from breeding by having only males or only females.
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Old June 9th, 2007  
vin
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

The other problem I think you have is that the temp is on the high side....Gradually drop it down to 76-78 over the course of a couple of days...Higher temps mean less oxygen.

Also, in addition to ammonia levels rising I would be willing to bet that you have nitrate issues as well....
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Old June 9th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

Try this link, it should take you to help files on the hagen test kits and hopefully let you get the instructions you need to use your kit.
http://hagen-us.custhelp.com/cgi-bin...1.24&p_cats=24
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Old June 9th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

FLBettaCouple i looked on there alredy... Im afrade ill have to go out and buy another one... the only thing is the LFS is goign out of buisnes.
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Old June 10th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

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FLBettaCouple i looked on there alredy... Im afrade ill have to go out and buy another one... the only thing is the LFS is goign out of buisnes.
that stinks. you could order an API kit from the DFS site for $19.99 or print out the page for it at petsmart.com and take it into the store for $20.69 + tax (unlike our petco, i hear petsmart honors online prices.)
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Old June 10th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

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Originally Posted by leafgirl115
FLBettaCouple i looked on there alredy... Im afrade ill have to go out and buy another one... the only thing is the LFS is goign out of buisnes.
Oh no. That's pretty bad. I heard a lot of members buy stuff on-line. Perhaps that's something. I guess there are no other fish stores around yours, are there?
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Old June 10th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

There is one but I dont like it.... They do not take care of there fish and everything is way over priced. But i think Pets smart is taking it over. Do you guys like them?

This morning the tank has cleered up a lot. Im happy to say.
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Old June 10th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

FLBettaCouple I am in Canada soit would be more than than that plus no pet smart yet near us. Not for another 2 weeks I think... and then they have to redo the stor.
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Old June 10th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

I don't REALLY like petsmart, but i don't hate them like Petco.. at least at petsmart, i've seen slightly better treatment of the fish than petco.

yea, it sucks that being in canada makes a difference with shipping & all.. it's not like it's going across the ocean or something..
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Old June 11th, 2007  
vin
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

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Originally Posted by FLBettaCouple
I don't REALLY like petsmart, but i don't hate them like Petco.. at least at petsmart, i've seen slightly better treatment of the fish than petco.

yea, it sucks that being in canada makes a difference with shipping & all.. it's not like it's going across the ocean or something..
I think it depends on the store...There are several PetCos around us...One is really good about fish, another is fair and the other is just poor and pathetic.....
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Old June 11th, 2007  
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Re: No idea what is wrong...

you're fortunate.. the best i've seen in petcos is ok (in denver).. the one here would have to improve to make it up to poor & pathetic.
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