Oblivion

Man, after losing Pippin, I noticed my BN Pleco has ICH. I rose the temperature a couple days ago to a steady 82F degrees. I have been using Ich Attack as the medicine to treat it and last night, I did a 25-30% water change. I noticed today, my other Glowlite Tetras are getting it too!!! My Dwarf Gourami though seems fine, but he's hiding a little more than usual. Gandalf, my BN Pleco, has tons of the white stuff on him and his right eye is very foggy and it looks like there's some Ich on his eyes? Is there anything else I can do to help increase their chances of surviving? After losing Pippin, I am really worried that Ich might kill them all. Anything I can do?

jsalemi

You're doing everything right -- it just has to run its course and you hope for the best. Keep the temp up for at least 14 days, and vacuum the gravel while you do the water change to get as many of the ich cysts out of the tank as you can.

Oblivion

I'm doing daily water changes, so hopefully it will suck out those dreaded Ich chysts...Gandalf hasn't eaten any of his zucchini ever since I noticed the Ich. Gandalf has been sucking on the glass right next to the thermometer with his nose partly sticking out of the water (I couldn't resist but to pet him a little .) When he's doing this, Eowyn has been swimming right next to him, touching him, and she's swimming into the glass...Is this her trying to scratch herself? Oh! How I wish this mayhem will end!

jsalemi

Yea, it could be her trying to scratch herself, and the BN is maybe getting some more air. Do you have aeration in the tank? Higher temperatures lower the oxygen level in the tank, so it helps to have an airstone or two going to help with the oxygen exchange.

Oblivion

I have a bubble wall going...

Idrial died!!! I didn't notice it 'cause I couldn't find her until I saw her body trying to be sucked up in the filter!!! Now my ammonia is high!!! I'm changing the water and doing everything I can and...

Oblivion

My ammonia has spiked up to 2!!! Because of Idrial! What can I do to lower the ammonia!

Oblivion

I just did a 50% water change. I hope this helps! I don't want them to die anymore *is about to cry*

COBettaCouple

change about 25% of the water out every 24 hours or so, testing the water right before doing the change, until you get the nitrites back down. Prime or Amquel+ will help protect the fish until it does.

Oblivion

I have Prime and my nitrites are at zero.

COBettaCouple

great!

Oblivion

Ammonia is still around 1-2...I just did a 25% water change. A question about my BN Pleco, Gandalf, his eyes are really cloudy. Is that a side effect from Ich? And he sometimes shows me his spiky things that look like they come out of his gills. It's kinda weird looking.

melawii

Ich can lead to fungal problems as well... but if I was you I would get that temperature higher. I'd say 90... do it slowly however, over the next 2 or 3 days. Ich lowers the fish immune system and one of the next in line illnesses they usually get are some kind of fungas or parasite. I'd focus on the ich battle right now! How big is your tank?

Oblivion

29g

melawii

yes, I would deffinately raise the temperature. Good luck, I hate ich... it feels like a constant battle, I swear my heater is the "sword" that helps me do it.

Oblivion

alright! thanks! i do not know if my heater will go that high, but i will slowly turn it to max

COBettaCouple

Sounds like he has cloudy eye and I would start treating him with Rid-Fungus. He may have gill flukes as well so you could check for Parasite Clear tabs to see if they'd be safe for him.

I'd recommend keeping the temp at 82-84F max. for 2 weeks. BN Plecos have a temp. range of 62-80F.

Oblivion

My Ich-Attack is also treats for diseases caused by fungus, protozoans, and dinoflagellates; so should it be fine for everything? And all the fishies seem to be doing alot better. I think he can see better now (Gandalf) because he gets spook now when I go up close, and almost all his spots are gone and on the other fishies, but I need to do this for like another week to make sure I get all of it gone and do the water changes daily. So, back to my Q, should Ich-Attack be fine?

What is flashing exactly? And here are some pics of my BN Pleco because it looks like he may have Fin Rot? Maybe? Argggh! I hope he survives all these diseases! Pic 1, at the very top-end part of the tail fin is white, didn't get a good pic. And Pic 3, looked weird so I just took a pic of it

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COBettaCouple

I've not tried the Ich-Attack on things other than Ich, but it's worth a shot.

I'm not sure about your BN Pleco.. that could be a nip or he might have torn his fin on something, I'd watch it and see if it changes any.

Flashing describes a fish that turns on its side and makes a rapid semicircular swimming motion. They'll frequently rub on objects in the tank.

jsalemi

Ich-Attack and Rid-Fungus are essentially the same products, with only slightly different compositions of the base active chemicals to target particular diseases. From the Kordon website:

"The three organic treatments can be used interchangeably, with Kordon Rid-Fungus particularly directed against all types of external fungal infections; Kordon Ich Attack particularly directed against all external protozoan and infections, including white spot disease (Ich); and Kordon Prevent Ich as a strong preventative that also serves as an effective external treatment of protozoans, dinoflagellates, and fungi. "

Oblivion

Okay, then Gandalf doesn't flash.

COBettaCouple

cool!

Oblivion

Thanks guys for all y'alls help! They are all recovered and Gandalf is good as new...but now he's back to his ol' shy self! =(. I guess the cloudy eye kinda made him blind so he couldn't see me so he didn't run away. Oh well, his name shall be Gandalf the White because he survived the diseases (Balrog) and came back...Thanks once again!

COBettaCouple

nice touch in Gandalf's name. Glad the tank is doing better.