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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
rams with ick

it looks like my GBR's have ick. i also have 4 corys and 8 cardinal tetras in with them what should i do? ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 10, pH 7, temp 83. now i see why a quarantine tank is used! also have live plants.
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Up the temperature a bit and do a 25% water change...you may need some sort of ICH treatment too.
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
shouldi worry terrably that it will spread to my other underwater friendS?
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Master
 
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shouldi worry terrably that it will spread to my other underwater friendS?
Actually I would just treat the whole just in case...you did say you don't have a sick tank right? I just remembered a time when I only treated one of the mollies I had in my over stocked 20g for ich, the other fish got it too. So I had to treat the whole tank anyway.
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
what is a good ick treatment htat wont stain my silicone or decorations. also isnt ick meds bad foe tetras?
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
the best thing to do when ich shows up is to treat the whole tank.. the treatment for ich is to raise the temp to at least 82 and keep it at least that warm for 2 weeks. clean the substrata well also. if you want to add a treatment, the only thing we'll use for ich is an herbal med called Ich-Attack by Kordon. It's safe for all the fish and the good bacteria.
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
my waters normal temp is 82 but since it has been gradually raised to 86 and i have ordered the ick-attack. i will be doing a 25% water change in the next couple days. I should vacuum the gravel really well? wont that throw off my bacteria colonies and have to "mini cycle?"
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
i think your filter media would help, but you might clean the gravel a bit at a time.. like 10% every other day perhaps?
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
that makes sence since bacterias lifespan is 24 hours right?
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Old October 22nd, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
the nitrifying bacterias that you want have about a 15-hour lifespan, if i remember my research right.. that's the reason for 'feeding' 2x a day when
doing fishless cycling.
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Old October 23rd, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
how do you dose your tank with the ick attack?
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Old October 23rd, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
when we had ich in the platy tank, we just dosed as the bottle directed and kept the temp around 83 for the 2 weeks.

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how do you dose your tank with the ick attack?
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Old October 30th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
Just Got The Ick Atack And Have Been Using It For About 5 Days. Unfortunately On Of My Rams Diddnt Make It But Everyone Else Seems Happy I Sure Hope This Gets Taken Care Of
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Old October 30th, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
we're sorry to hear that 1 of the rams didn't make it, but the rest sound on their way to clearing out the ick and we hope that's the only loss.
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Old October 31st, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
I Really Hope This Gets It Done. My Water Is At 86 And I Have Been Treating At The Same Time Every Day Dam I Hope I Diddnt Get The Stubborn Kind
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Old November 3rd, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
WELL all three of my rams have passed on but the cardinals pleco and corys are looking good so ill ust keep up the routine and hope for the best. My tank seems lonly now. my rams would always come up to the front of the glass and greet me all 3 in a row.
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Old November 3rd, 2007  
Moderator
 
Hi Wolfgang,
sorry to hear about your rams... . I wonder about the higher temp of 86* whether that is really good for them or not? I know that they normally prefer a temp of 75-84*. I do understand raising the temperature for ick treatment tho. How was your PH in that tank? They do prefer a softer acidic water than others.
~ kate
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Old November 3rd, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
ph is 7 kh is hard
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Old November 3rd, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
we're sorry that you lost the Rams.
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Old November 3rd, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
they really are pretty fish and i might,... might try them again only if they are at a different store. Every fish i bought from that store has died! 1 red tail shark 3 gbr's, 1 skunk cory and 1 golden gourami. i spent too much money there for them to keep dying while every other fish i bought from any other store is thriving. my rams went and my school of cardinal tetras is thriving no one looks even remotly bad while rams are floaters. sorry for venting here but im definatly ****ed that i spent so much money there and have no one left to look at.
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Old November 4th, 2007  
Moderator
 
Hi Wolfgang..
I totally understand how you feel and can relate. I have lost a lot of fish from one store and just will not buy any more from them, even tho they are conveniently located. GBRs are not cheap! And they are such a kewl fish that its a shame to loose those guys.. or any fish really!
Good luck with whatever you end up decided to get to replace those guys you lost...

~ kate
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Old November 4th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
so far what i have in my 50 gallon is....
6 CORYS
1 COMMON PLECO
8 CARDINAL TETRAS
1 bumble bee goby


ill be adding 2 small angels in a week or so. My cardinals are full grown. and my pleco will be sold before he gets more than 5 inches. what else could/should i add? I found a new store that has some GBR's they are small though. any help would be awesome!
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Old November 4th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
my ich is non visable anymore yay i got a bumble bee goby today hes so cute only about |_____| <---that big lol everything is looking good
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Old November 5th, 2007  
Fish Helper
 
glad to hear the tank is looking/feeling much better keep in mind tho that you should still leave the termperature high for the next 10 days. not all stages of ick are visible. I treated yoyo's with ick while I also had kribensis in the tank, I raised the temp all the way to 89* and they were fine, I had no losses, thankfully I caught it early
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Old November 5th, 2007  
Fish Addict
 
Sorry to hear about your rams, and the other fish you have lost.

You do realize that bumblebee gobies are brackish fish, right? And they also like to be in groups.
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Old November 5th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
I Go The Actual Bumble Bee Goby That Tolerates Freshwater Pretty Well Unlike Its Cousin The Gold Banded Goby Who Cannot.
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Old November 9th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
hooray im not seeing any ich anymore at all and my ach attack only has one more dose so im goin to finish it up and leave mt heat at 86* fo anoter 7 days, then i will be able to gut my angels yay!
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