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Old August 9th, 2007  
Fish Bum
 
Re: Early mistakes

Thank you! i will
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Old August 9th, 2007  
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Re: Early mistakes

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Wow, thanks, Haze_Betta. How 'ya settling in on Fishlore? Finding lots of good info?
Yea its very nice and theres awsome people here^.^
It's a great community. we've learned so much since march on here. ask all the questions that you want, it keeps us out of trouble.
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Old August 10th, 2007  
Fish Bum
 
Re: Early mistakes

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Wow, thanks, Haze_Betta. How 'ya settling in on Fishlore? Finding lots of good info?
Yea its very nice and theres awsome people here^.^
It's a great community. we've learned so much since march on here. ask all the questions that you want, it keeps us out of trouble.
Will do!^.^
Thank you
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Old August 14th, 2007  
Fish Addict
 
Re: Early mistakes

i like that honeyg bloke he sounds cool
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Old August 15th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Oh totally. And that Armadillo girl! She's such a cracker. I'll bet she must have gone to comedy school or something.
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Old August 15th, 2007  
Master Of Fish Poo!
 
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Oh totally. And that Armadillo girl! She's such a cracker. I'll bet she must have gone to comedy school or something.
you mean crackers, right? just like flbettacouple.
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Old August 17th, 2007  
Jim
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Re: Early mistakes

OMG, I when I decided to start up a tank again i think I made every mistake it's possible to make. That's how I found all you crazy fishheads. If it wasn't for this site I would have most likely chucked the thing out the window and given up.
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Old August 17th, 2007  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Re: Early mistakes

When I was much younger my family started an aquarium. It was only 10 gallons and it quickly became overstocked. I think we had 13 fish at one point.....I have no idea how many inches of fish that was!!! We eventually worked our way up to 15 and then 35 gallon tanks but I never forgot how special that first tank seemed.
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Old August 19th, 2007  
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Re: Early mistakes

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My hardest lesson learned is to make sure your substrate (whether sand, gravel, etc.) is airated routinely. I almost lost every fish I had in a 20 gal. long tank because I failed to vacuum under decorations in the tank. The gravel collected pockets of anaerobic gasses, and when one of those bubbles seeped out of the gravel, it poisoned my tank within a couple of hours. I think only about 2 or 3 of my fish survived. Now I clean all the gravel in the tank by lifting rocks and decorations, and the tank I have with sand is kept airated by MTS (malaysian trumpet snails).
That's awful, and so good to know. Thanks for that. I don't like to move their decorations as that's where they go when they want peace. Looks like a change of policy is coming on. I guess if you only do it once in a while it's OK (like once a month?)

Once a month is fine. You can also take the stick end of a wooden spoon or knitting needle, and poke around the substrate to keep it airated.
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Old August 31st, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

No kind of goldfish can go in a small tank for too long...they get really big. I had 8 fancy goldfish in 20g...they were tiny but once I learned more I realized with amount of goldfish I had at the time...we needed the 120g we have now. So I sold them...I really didn't want a huge goldfish tank.
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Old August 31st, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Thanks, Allie. I'll add this to the goldfish caresheet. I try to keep this one species-generic. Thanks for your input!
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Old August 31st, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

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Thanks, Allie. I'll add this to the goldfish caresheet. I try to keep this one species-generic. Thanks for your input!
YOu are welcome...a lot of people don't realize how big goldies get...we had one here as big as our piranhas it was their xmas dinner....I haven't ever seen a goldfish that big....we do have a feeding video but it's kinda nasty.
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Old September 1st, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Yeah, I feel so sorry for goldfish. Because they are treated like commodity most times. Like, given away at a fair or something, in a bowl.
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Old September 3rd, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Don't listen to your local fish stores' peoples' advice, unless you know they know for sure what they are talking about.
A friend of our worked for one of the major LFS chains. He wasn't allowed to tell the customer not to buy a fish. Even tho he knew that the fish the customer wanted couldn't go with what they had. I once over heard someone talking about having piranha in with Oscars and other SA cichlids. They store clerk just nodded & smiled. NOT ALL SA American fish can go together lol.
So research on your own time before you go to a pet/fish store. All you have to do is Google the name of the fish you like or tropical fish...and all kinds of good info pops up.
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Old September 3rd, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Thanks a lot for the addition, Allie. I've added it to the first post.
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Here's another one...Never clean your tank with bleach or any other cleaners. Clean with a scrubber/sos pad type and water.
If you don't rise rinse it properly the chemicles could kill the fish. A friend of ours cleaned the outside her tank with windex...but then used the same cloth to wipe the inside. All her fish died.
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand thanks again, Allie. Man you bring so much good info, comments, feedback and pix to this site. Thanks for being such an active member!

P.S. Just added your comment to the main sheet now.
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Old September 6th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

I have made plenty of early mistakes....same with my fish friends.
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Old September 8th, 2007  
Fish Helper
 
Re: Early mistakes

Never ever buy fish from a tank with dead or diseased fish in it. Trust me you will fight it forever.

Beeboy
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Old September 9th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Thanks so much, Beeboy. I've added it to the list.

Guys, I love your contributions. Keep posting.
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Old September 10th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

I learned that the bigger bodied betta the older they are. Betta should be babies, 3-4mos old/1-2" when bought...since they can only last 3-5 years.
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Old September 10th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

Oh thanks Allie. I'll keep that one on the side for when I finally update the betta caresheet. We try to keep this one species-generic. Good tip, though.
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Old September 12th, 2007  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
Re: Early mistakes

So much good stuff all in one place! Thanks! I'm suffering right now from mistakes made by trusting the LFS guys.

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Old September 13th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

It's awful, isn't it, that you don't feel you can trust the specialists. Glad we could be of help. Don't hesitate to share your own early mistakes, so future newbies won't have to.
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Old September 13th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Re: Early mistakes

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It's awful, isn't it, that you don't feel you can trust the specialists. Glad we could be of help. Don't hesitate to share your own early mistakes, so future newbies won't have to.
The sad part is most of ours and probably world wide pet/fish stores hire people the same way they hire at Mc Donald's. Inexperienced people who no nothing about pets/fish. The people who work in the fish room should have some knowledge of tropical fish...they are getting better people in here.
The guy who runs the fish room at one lfs ask my boyfriend if he wanted a job...I think one of should. We've learned a lot over the past year with all the types of fish we've have kept. All the research we've done.
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Old September 13th, 2007  
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Re: Early mistakes

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It's awful, isn't it, that you don't feel you can trust the specialists. Glad we could be of help. Don't hesitate to share your own early mistakes, so future newbies won't have to.
The sad part is most of ours and probably world wide pet/fish stores hire people the same way they hire at Mc Donald's. Inexperienced people who no nothing about pets/fish. The people who work in the fish room should have some knowledge of tropical fish...they are getting better people in here.
The guy who runs the fish room at one lfs ask my boyfriend if he wanted a job...I think one of should. We've learned a lot over the past year with all the types of fish we've have kept. All the research we've done.
yea, if we ever get to have a fish shop like we want - the jobs will be "experience required"
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Old September 13th, 2007  
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It's awful, isn't it, that you don't feel you can trust the specialists. Glad we could be of help. Don't hesitate to share your own early mistakes, so future newbies won't have to.
The sad part is most of ours and probably world wide pet/fish stores hire people the same way they hire at Mc Donald's. Inexperienced people who no nothing about pets/fish. The people who work in the fish room should have some knowledge of tropical fish...they are getting better people in here.
The guy who runs the fish room at one lfs ask my boyfriend if he wanted a job...I think one of should. We've learned a lot over the past year with all the types of fish we've have kept. All the research we've done.
yea, if we ever get to have a fish shop like we want - the jobs will be "experience required"
I think that it definitely should be how it is.
Today a lady at the LPS store was asking the guy working in the fish room what type of cichlid a fish were...he hemmed haaed...I finally said they are yellow labs...african cichlids. He actually walked away and let me talk to the lady. :
She wanted a midas, but didn't know how big they got. lol I talked to her the whole time I was there while my bf was getting Datnoid #3
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Old October 21st, 2007  
Fish Helper
 
This is the best article I've ever read in a long time, and I'm glad I did! Thanks a bunch for creating it. This has become one of my favorite sources. I've heard of many of these things before but some of them I did not know about.
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Old October 27th, 2007  
Fish Master
 
Wow, thanks a lot, Tayful. And please don't hesitate to add your own lessons-learned to it as time passes. Just add a post to this thread, and I'll integrate it to the main article's text.
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Old January 8th, 2008  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
how about a small amount of salt in fresh water tank.

thanks
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