cholo

i'm a newbe i adopted 3 angle fish 3 months lady at work was going to flush them down cuz her doughter did not want to take care of them any longer . since then i ihave added 4 tiger barbs, 4 gourimis 1 sun catfish and 2 plecos. i have the tiger barbs in a 15gal w/ 1 pleco and the rest in 20gal. sadly to say one i found one of my tiger barb on top moviging very slow. need help dont know what to do.

platy ben

Welcome to fishlore cholo, but please make your own thread, your question will get more attention then.

cholo

how do i do that im confused

Butterfly

i'm a newbe i adopted 3 angle fish 3 months lady at work was going to flush them down cuz her doughter did not want to take care of them any longer . since then i ihave added 4 tiger barbs, 4 gourimis 1 sun catfish and 2 plecos. i have the tiger barbs in a 15gal w/ 1 pleco and the rest in 20gal. sadly to say one i found one of my tiger barb on top moviging very slow. need help dont know what to do.

This question was posted on a personal profile and is being posted here for Cholo

platy ben

click on this link, http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/ then clink on the appropriate category for the question, in your case I would suggest the freshwater beginners section. Then there is a new thread button, click that and make your thread

cholo

thank you platy ben . i will go try that now

navyscuba

Why are you using Butterfly's account? Well I don't know but Butterfly could point you on the right direction. To begin with the tanks are too small for them. Second you need to know your water parameters maybe they are off.

cholo

i need help i have a tiger barb that is on top it looks like he is dying what do i do to prevent any of my other tiger barbs from getting sick

bolivianbaby

Welcome to Fishlore, Cholo!

For 3 angelfish, I'd advise a 55 gallon tank. What type of gouramis do you have? That'll help us figure out what size tank you need. Also, do you know what type of plecos you have?

Once we have the above information, we can help advise you.

The nitrogen cycle is one of the most important aspects of fishkeeping. Here's the link. www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm.

Also, if you could tell us what kind of test kit your using and get your readings for pH, ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates, that would help us help you.

Lucy

Scubes.....Butterfly made this thread for Cholo.

AlyeskaGirl

Hello & Welcome!

That is wonderful that you rescued the Angels, saw your post in the other thread.

You said you don't know about the nitrogen cycle. Here's a link to read up on. http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm It will help you understand what may be going on in your 15 gal. A cycled tank is ammonia 0, nitrite 0 and nitrAtes less then 20.

I would do a 50% water change asap. If there is toxins in there, the water change will lower them. I would suggest in getting a test kit, the API liquid master kit is what we all use here. That is the best way to know what exactly is going on in your tank. Daily water changes may be in order with Prime or Amquel Plus for a water conditioner. Eather one helps reduce the toxins for 24 hrs until next water change. Do you have an airstone in there?

If I may add, the 15 gallon isn't going to be big enough for the pleco. Do you know what plecos you have? Some get huge. They produce alot of waste! I would consider in returning it if possible. Even the one in your 20 gallon is ify. Your 20 gallon is way overstocked with the pleco since they are huge waste producers. Just keep up on your weekly water changes in the 20. The bottom line is you need a bigger tank if you want to keep all the fish in your 20 (need space and wont get dirty so fast) but the plecos are ify until we know what they are and Tiger Barbs can't be put in with the Angels. They are nippy and too active. I hope your one Tiger pulls through after a water change. I will be thinking about him.

I hope everything works out for you.

navyscuba

i noticed after I read BB's post.

Lucy

To make things more confusing, I merged 2 threads.

Edit: Make that 3 threads.

Ben, thanks for helping cholo make a thread.

Butterfly

To be more confusing... there weren't any threads to merge when I made this thread for cholo

Cholo you are getting lots of good advice. Hang in there and work through this a bit at a time.

navyscuba

You guys messed me up with this threats.

Lucy

cholo

sorry i had to step and take care of some things thats why i havent responded back. but i would just like to say thank you alyeskagirl, lucy, bolivianbaby, navyscuba and butterfly for all your advice. sadly to say my tiger barb did not make it. i did not know i had to check the water for ph, nitrites ect. pet smart right now are close. i will be looking into the info about the nitrogen cycle and getting a test kit i dont want to lose any more of my buddies i have grown attach to them.

the gouramis i think they opline and they about 1 1/2 long

my angel fish all 3 of them are 4 inches long

my 2 plecos i think they are plecostomus hypostomus they about 6 inches i bought them when they were an inch

my 3 tiger barbs are about about an inch

my eclypse cat fish 3inches i bought becuase they told at the store that he would help up the waste

Lucy

I'm so sorry you lost the little guy.

navyscuba

Sorry for the loss of your Tiger.
Like I said on my first post the tanks are too small for the amount of waste that the fish are producing specially the 2 plecos. The angels usually you can have a pair on a 20 gal but that would be it. The tigers are fin nippers and as they get bigger will nip at the fins of the Angels and probably get them in stress and get fungus infections on their fins. I'm sorry to break it to you this way but that's the way it is. If the plecos are the common plecos they will get around bigger than a foot and a half and sometimes 24". I'm sorry but unless you can get a good deal on a bigger tank you will be doing water changes every 2 or 3 days.

cholo

yea so sad i took him out and when i came back he was gone.

im glad i found this site its been very helpful

navyscuba

Check Freecycle or Craigslist in your area I'm pretty sure you can find a good deal. Good Luck.

cholo

yea i just got this 20 gal. but my tiger barbs they are in a 15 gal with 1 pleco and the rest are the 20

AlyeskaGirl

Awwwww, I am so sorry you lost him.

Since you just got the 20 gallon, you deff. need that test kit. They are spendy but worth it. Skip the test strips, they don't give accurate readings. Daily water changes are going to be a must with Prime or Amquel Plus, like I stated above in my first post. Angelfish don't do well in an uncycled tank, speaking from experience.