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Old November 15th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
New Tank Plans

Hi Everyone, I am going to get my 55 gallon this December now and I have a few questions. I am not sure if it is safe to put a 55 gallon on the second story of my house? I have my 30 gallon in my room and I would like to sell my 10 gallon and get the 55 off of Craigslist.com to put in my room (Great deals!) Any thoughts?
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Old November 15th, 2009  
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How big is your room? Do you have any outside walls you could put it against?
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Old November 15th, 2009  
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ok i'm a chinese, and we do have belive that you shouldn't keep any fish tank in your room (if you are married or have children).

in feng shui, having big fish tank in a bed room where you sleep will cause you to have sleepless night, and pressure when you are sleeping.

if you aren't married you could just keep one small tank in your room, if you too belive in feng shui then you can put the fish tank in your living room, try to figure out where's your water place. put the fish tank there, it will bring you happness and lots of money.

if you belive it then try to find it online(http://en.allexperts.com/q/Feng-Shui...ms-bedroom.htm), but i'm not a expert in this. me too hear this from others.

Last edited by speed0factory; November 15th, 2009 at 10:56 PM. Reason: add in a link
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Old November 15th, 2009  
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ok i'm a chinese, and we do have belive that you shouldn't keep any fish tank in your room (if you are married or have children).

in feng shui, having big fish tank in a bed room where you sleep will cause you to have sleepless night, and pressure when you are sleeping.

if you aren't married you could just keep one small tank in your room, if you too belive in feng shui then you can put the fish tank in your living room, try to figure out where's your water place. put the fish tank there, it will bring you happness and lots of money.
Pretty interesting!
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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ok i'm a chinese, and we do have belive that you shouldn't keep any fish tank in your room (if you are married or have children).

in feng shui, having big fish tank in a bed room where you sleep will cause you to have sleepless night, and pressure when you are sleeping.

if you aren't married you could just keep one small tank in your room, if you too belive in feng shui then you can put the fish tank in your living room, try to figure out where's your water place. put the fish tank there, it will bring you happness and lots of money.

if you belive it then try to find it online(http://en.allexperts.com/q/Feng-Shui...ms-bedroom.htm), but i'm not a expert in this. me too hear this from others.
Very interesting... I have a 4 gal in my room though.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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ok i'm a chinese, and we do have belive that you shouldn't keep any fish tank in your room (if you are married or have children).

in feng shui, having big fish tank in a bed room where you sleep will cause you to have sleepless night, and pressure when you are sleeping.

if you aren't married you could just keep one small tank in your room, if you too belive in feng shui then you can put the fish tank in your living room, try to figure out where's your water place. put the fish tank there, it will bring you happness and lots of money.

if you belive it then try to find it online(http://en.allexperts.com/q/Feng-Shui...ms-bedroom.htm), but i'm not a expert in this. me too hear this from others.
Seriously, to answer OP's question. Ask your father, your landlord, perhaps even a builder. As was said in this thread, you want the tank ideally on an outside wall. A 55 gallon freshwater tank will come out to about 600 pounds when full. 600 pounds in a 4x1 square footprint can push the limits of the structure. Having 600 pounds supported by four legs is worse since it comes out to 600 / 4 = 150 lbs on four small points, perhaps even single floorboards. You may alleviate this issue if your tank stand is on legs, by cutting plywood to set your tank stand on. Also, use a level on your tank stand, watch for any shifts in water distribution as you fill you tank up. Once your tank is nearly full, stop. The floor may sink a bit, unevenly at that. I had a 40 gallon tank in our upstairs almost overflow because the floor settled. In brief, take filling the tank slow, and watch how things go for several weeks.

Last edited by Lucy; November 16th, 2009 at 09:44 AM. Reason: use of curse words against the rules, being disrespectful to other members
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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If your house was built to current code, and some plumber didn't hack away some joist in a remodel, you should be fine with it on the second floor. Your bathtub probably holds just about as much water, plus the weight of a person.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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some plumber didn't hack away some joist in a remodel, you should be fine with it on the second floor. Your bathtub probably holds just about as much water, plus the weight of a person.
Exactly, but if you don't know the history of the house, you might be putting the tank on a weak spot.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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If your house was built to current code, and some plumber didn't hack away some joist in a remodel, you should be fine with it on the second floor. Your bathtub probably holds just about as much water, plus the weight of a person.
True, and also water beds can weigh in around 2,000 pounds. However, I plan on getting a stand that does not have 4 legs so the weight will not be on four small points.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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Oh and the tank will go against a outside wall.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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hmm...these were things I did not consider when I setup my 29g in the bedroom (and I'm married) on a 4 legged iron stand and on the second floor. The only thing I got right is that is placed adjacent to an exterior wall. So far I've been sleeping through the night like a rock, my new residents are very quiet and respect our sleep time.

But interesting thing the Feng Shui beliefs. It seems to be OK if your tank is closed. I have yet another reason to cover the 1x6 inch opening I have in the back of the tank. The first reason was to prevent fish from jumping out.
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Old November 17th, 2009  
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I found a great article on this issue... http://badmanstropicalfish.com/articles/article28.html

Let me know what you think of it...it proves many myths wrong in my mind.
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Old November 17th, 2009  
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go up to where you plan on putting the tank and bounce or jump a few times..if nothing rattles or bounces you should be fine. A tank stand for 55 gallons distrubutes the weight over at least 3 joists.

My neighbors mother is chinese (of course she is too) and was very excited to see my Koi pond. She said it would bring me riches!!! Well I'm still waiting, but then having the lovely fish has brought me riches....just not monetary!!!
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Old November 17th, 2009  
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I found a great article on this issue... http://badmanstropicalfish.com/articles/article28.html

Let me know what you think of it...it proves many myths wrong in my mind.
I am a Structural Desiger and I can say that the article was spot on.
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Old November 17th, 2009  
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Was very interested in the feng shui because when i did my Psychology degree we touched on similar things that you've just reminded me of ^^. Having running electrical appliances (even quiet ones) can affect your sleeping without you knowing it (not with everyone mind you). Noises that we cannot consciously hear can still affect us, especially over time. Just another thing to consider, but you may be one of the people it doesn't affect!
Just thought I'd share lol
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Old November 18th, 2009  
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I came across this link as I was looking for aquarium stands. Gives you and idea of how much your tank will weight when full of water.
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