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Old November 14th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Major pH plummet?

I lost one of my molly fish during the night and so I got down to business this morning testing my water.

I tested the ammonia twice and both times it was 0, so I know he did not pass away due to an ammonia spike.

The nitrite level is 0.25. It is not ideal, but I am not sure if it was high enough to cause his death.

nitrate is at 10ppm. It is not significantly high and so I assume this did not cause his death either.

I figured out the problem and I am completely floored. The pH is at either 6.0 or less! The card with the colors on it only goes down to 6.0. I don't understand how this could have happened. I tested it 2 days ago and it was at 7.6.

Does anyone have a suggestion to raise the pH? I was planning to do a water change today, but now I am just so confused I don't know what to do!
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Old November 14th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Rapid pH swings like that typically only occur when the water has a low KH (or carbonate hardness or akalinity). Technically speaking, KH is a measure of bicarbonate (HCO3-) and carbonate (CO3--) ions in the water; practically speaking, it's the water's buffering capacity against pH swings. API does make a test kit for this if you want to verify.

Adding crushed coral, either in a sack or mixed into the substrate, should raise both KH and pH over time. I'll let someone who has actually had to do this give you advice on any specific methods, as I have the exact opposite problem... my water is almost as hard as concrete!
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Old November 14th, 2009  
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I've added crushed coral to all of my tanks because the true PH of my tapwater is 6.0. You can buy the crushed coral at Petsmart. Rinse it very well. I have to rinse mine a handful at a time and keep rinsing and rinsing. Otherwise it clouds up the tank. The cloudiness goes away after a few days, but it's still annoying. Add it a cup (measuring cup) at a time, give it a week, test your PH then. For a 29g, it probably won't take more than one or two cups.
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Old November 14th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Thanks for the advice. I haven't lost any other fish yet, so hopefully this will work.
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Old November 14th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Whats the true pH of your tap water?

Luckily for me my pH stabilizes at 7.0 without buffers or additives
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Old November 15th, 2009  
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Hello JAA. Sorry to hear you lost your Molly. Here is a link on pH you may find helpful.
Properly Maintaining the pH in a Freshwater Aquarium - Rate My Fish Tank
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Old November 15th, 2009  
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Many hobbyists test their tap water right away for pH. However, this is not a good indication of your “true” pH. To properly measure your tap water’s pH, pour some tap water into a bucket and place an air stone in the bucket to agitate the surface (to oxygenate the water). Then let this bucket of water sit out for 24 hours. After this, test the water for its pH. It is then a good idea to check it after 48 hours to see if there is any additional change. These values measured after 24-48 hours are an accurate measure of the “true” pH of your tap water.
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Old November 15th, 2009  
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IMO Ph is used way too much. Ph drops are merely a bi product of KH problems (as a few have said above) KH is not tested frequently enough in aquariums and is the true indicator of problems like this.
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