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Old November 5th, 2009  
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About to start a Tank!!

Hello All, first off First POST!!

Anyway. I will soon be starting a 16 Gallon tank. Im just waiting for my Tetra safestart to come in ( i know about the nitro cycle) but i was hoping you guys could give me some tips? The fish i was considering starting with are:
-Neon Tetras
-Guppies
-Plattys
-or Cherry Barbs

Which do you think would be the best for a beginner? Will Mickeymouse platys school with assorted plattys? I know these are all schooling fish and i only have space for about 8 fish so im not so sure as what to do =/

Also for water conditioner i have AmQuel+ and Start Right Conditioner and dechlorinator (these are Tablets if you dont know) So after i have my gravel and plants in my tank what do i do as far as the conditioners? when do i add the safe start and how soon after that do i add my fish? Thanks for any help!!

Will get pics up after its all set up =)
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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Welcome to FL!!
As far as I know, platys and guppys are not schooling fish. But unless you are planning on fry, I would avoid getting females. An all-male tank would probably be best.

As far as the TSS, they recommend using Tetra Aqua Safe conditioner with the product. If you don't want to purchase that, maybe you could use one of the others at least 24 hours ahead of using the TSS?

When you use the TSS, you add your fish in at the same time. Then you do nothing for 7-10 days except for feedings. no water changes, no testing. At the end, hopefully, you'll have a cycled tank.

I would avoid the neon tetras - they need an established tank, and may not survive the cycling, especially if they TSS doesn't work. I currently have TSS in my tank, and I have guppys, they are doing well. You could consider 3 guppys, 3 platys, and 3 corydora catfish for the bottom. That may be a tiny bit overstocked, but if you keep on top of your water changes, it could work.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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Welcome to fishlore FishNugget43!! Looking foward to some pictures once you get your tank set up

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Old November 5th, 2009  
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Hello All, first off First POST!!

Anyway. I will soon be starting a 16 Gallon tank. Im just waiting for my Tetra safestart to come in ( i know about the nitro cycle) but i was hoping you guys could give me some tips? The fish i was considering starting with are:
-Neon Tetras
-Guppies
-Plattys
-or Cherry Barbs

Which do you think would be the best for a beginner? Will Mickeymouse platys school with assorted plattys? I know these are all schooling fish and i only have space for about 8 fish so im not so sure as what to do =/

Also for water conditioner i have AmQuel+ and Start Right Conditioner and dechlorinator (these are Tablets if you dont know) So after i have my gravel and plants in my tank what do i do as far as the conditioners? when do i add the safe start and how soon after that do i add my fish? Thanks for any help!!

Will get pics up after its all set up =)
I would do 6 cherry barbs (2m/4f), a dwarf gourami and a bunch of ghost shrimp. Once you and your tank is established, you could add a couple of clown killis or notho killis.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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I would do 6 cherry barbs (2m/4f), a dwarf gourami and a bunch of ghost shrimp. Once you and your tank is established, you could add a couple of clown killis or notho killis.
I like that idea. how many shrimp could i have? what should i get for decor with that setup?
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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the shrimp prefer sand or small gravel, I think they like to burrow into it. I don't know how many ghost shrimp you could have, since I don't know about their bioload.

I tend to recommend fewer fish than Jaysee does.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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You can use waht ever decor you wish but with the gourami you will want something on the upper level for them to hang out in. Like a floating plant.

Welcome to Fishlore and have a great time.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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I like that idea. how many shrimp could i have? what should i get for decor with that setup?
I would add the shrimp last, and put in 15-20. You'll lose some right away, but if you end up with 10-15 that'll be nice. Their numbers will slowly fall and you'll have to get more after 3 months or so, but they do a great job cleaning the tank, have next to nothing for bioload, and provide a nice snack for your fish here and there.

For decor - you could either go with a centerpiece of some sort and fil in around the back and sides with plants, or you could densly plant one side with stuff that reaches the top, leave the center open and have some small stone decorations or something on the other side. It's up to you.

Here's my 20H with 10 cherry barbs, a gw killi and a blue crayfish.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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I really like your tank, Jaysee.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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Welcome to FishLore!

If you are using an API liquid ammiona test kit, keep in mind that the Amquel+ will cause it to read false positive. I use Amquel+ and went to Kardon's website and bought a powder based ammonia tets kit that is compatable with Amquel+.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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Thank you.

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I tend to recommend fewer fish than Jaysee does.
I tend to overstock my tanks

I feed lightly, have double filtration and do weekly 50% water changes. I do have to keep in mind that not everyone does this, in which case numbers should probably be scaled back
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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so if guppies and plattys arnt schooling fish what kinds of combos could i do there community-wise?
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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In your tank, I would do 3-4 of each. Jaysee, could the OP do the guppys and platy combo with the ghost shrimp? That sounds kind of cool.
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Old November 5th, 2009  
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In your tank, I would do 3-4 of each. Jaysee, could the OP do the guppys and platy combo with the ghost shrimp? That sounds kind of cool.
Sure, I don't see why not. As long as the shrimp have plants and decor to hide in, they'll be fine.
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Old November 6th, 2009  
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Welcome.... lots of posts, which is always good.... to add my two cents, I have neon tetras are what i have, and personally they are really beautiful... and i find the brightness of their colours can also indicate when its time to do a water change
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Old November 6th, 2009  
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Hi, So i finally have all of my stuff to start my Tank! minus the fish... im hoping to get those soon thouh... cause i got safe start... I'll put a picture of my tank up when its al set up as soon as i can =D OH, I have this thermometer that came with my heater... it looks like it sticks to the tank some how... but do i tape it on? or stick it to the outside? front? back?
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Old November 6th, 2009  
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I suggest male gups in 2-3. More than that and they can get feisty, but they do like to have a buddy of their own kind. Platys and balloon mollies are also nice fish that do well with a friend like them, but don't need a school. Congrats on the new tank - it sounds like it's gonna be really pretty!

Remember that whatever fishies you add, only add about 2-3 fish every two weeks, otherwise you may overload your new cycle.

That thermometer sounds like the stick-on kind; those really aren't very accurate. I suggest buying the "real" kind for a few bucks because they'll give you a much clearer and more accurate reading.
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Old November 6th, 2009  
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welcome to fishlore!!!
that would be a fun guppy and platy tank as iloveengl suggested ..with some plants and ground cover, you could get some shrimp..but most fish, will attempt to eat them as they molt so a heavy ground cover and hiding spots are important...but please DONT wait for fish to get dull color to change water....keep an eye on your water parimeters for a few months especially with it being a new tank....I agree with mommybaby that the neons or cardinals might not do well with the newly setup tank....they arent as hardy as the others.....
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