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Old November 10th, 2009  
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Those are some fantastic pics! What type of fish are in there?
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Old November 10th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Welcome to FL!
It seems to me he has neons, harlequin rasboras, black neons... and another tetra which i cant remember it's name LOL
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Old November 10th, 2009  
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Welcome to FL!
It seems to me he has neons, harlequin rasboras, black neons... and another tetra which i cant remember it's name LOL
5 cardinals 6 black neons 4 harlequins 2 silver tips and 1 beta
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Old November 10th, 2009  
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The silver tip, that's what I didn't recognize. Thanks. They're pretty.
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Old November 10th, 2009  
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LOL thats the one i couldnt remember
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Old November 10th, 2009  
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The silver tip, that's what I didn't recognize. Thanks. They're pretty.
ya i really like the wa they look but i noticed that they are more aggressive than other tetra's and chase them around the tank , but now that they're outnumbered they have relatively stopped
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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my tank just got decimated from neon tetra disease
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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Oh, I'm so sorry. Did you lose you whole stock?
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Old November 16th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
oh no im also so very sorry!!
but tetra disease usually only infects the neons and has been very rare as of late not saying thats not what happened though... ...what signs of illness/death did you have?
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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That's horrible. I'm sorry for your losses. Do you plan to re-stock? When will the water be safe for re-stocking? Do you know?
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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I'd look at another cause besides NTD.
Although quite a few fish besides neons can contract it, Cardinals don't.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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I'd look at another cause besides NTD.
Although quite a few fish besides neons can contract it, Cardinals don't.
really? (knew cardinals didnt but didnt think a betta or other fish could) I didnt know that ! thanks!
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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I don't know about the betta but rasboras can and I'm pretty sure the black neons can.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
well im not 100% if it was ntd
but i lost all my black neons except for one thats in my QT and i lost all my cardinals, yet my silver tips, harlequins, and sae are all fine. the fish that died all started to loose their color and it looked like white patches were growing over there neon strips making them disappear and they wouldn't swim much
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Old November 17th, 2009  
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Aw, I am sorry.

Below is link for NTD.

http://www.fishyportal.com/cgi-bin/p...=52&did=241666
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Old November 17th, 2009  
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How does the water test? And are you sure your tank was fully cycled? How did you cycle the tank?

I looked at your profile and it says this tank was just setup 10/25/09. You have quite a few fish in there for a tank thats only been setup for approx 3 weeks. I'm wondering if your tank is still going through the cycle and some sort of spike (i.e ammonia, nitrite, etc..) is causing all these issues?
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Old November 19th, 2009  
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How does the water test? And are you sure your tank was fully cycled? How did you cycle the tank?

I looked at your profile and it says this tank was just setup 10/25/09. You have quite a few fish in there for a tank thats only been setup for approx 3 weeks. I'm wondering if your tank is still going through the cycle and some sort of spike (i.e Ammonia, Nitrite, etc..) is causing all these issues?
everything was at the proper levels last i checked
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Old November 23rd, 2009  
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Define proper

assuming you are still having troubles, what do the levels read?
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Old November 24th, 2009  
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yesterday~
am- either 0 or .25 cant tell
nitrite-0
natrate-0
pH-8
i just did a 2 gallon water change today too
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Old November 24th, 2009  
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it almost seems as if the tank hasnt cycled yet at all, did you add some sort of booster like safe start or cycle
?
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Old November 24th, 2009  
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i used nite out
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Old November 24th, 2009  
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i used nite out
not familiar with that product im assuming its to aid in the black out procedures, when my 5 gallon was first set up i kept a betta in it nowhere near any sunligh and it grew algae like crazy i never knew why, i just cleanes it weekly, the gravel the plants everything, course i used the tanks water to do so not tap, sometimes it would take weeks for the algae to reappear, if it did I cleaned it up again, i never found a solution, i tried an algae destroyer but it did nothing.

yes your nitrite levels are dangerously high, do the water change quickly, and most likely will have to continue to do so until the tank is cycled if your keeping fish in it, check the ammonia and nitrite daily, if there even a little high do a partial water change, disreguard the nitrite comment i was looking at a previous page, but as i said before the tank isnt cycled or your have a nitrate reading

Last edited by Lucy; December 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 PM.
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Old November 24th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
its a biological bacteria solution
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Old November 24th, 2009  
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after my fiasco i re-did my tank a bit but im not to sure if i like it :S
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Old November 29th, 2009  
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The substrate is not the right one if u intend to grow live plants. Please change the substrate......the best i wud recommend is "aqua soil amazonia" which is expensive but worth the money and comes in dark brown color and u could order it online if u dont find it in a petstore.
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Old December 2nd, 2009  
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The substrate is not the right one if u intend to grow live plants. Please change the substrate......the best i wud recommend is "aqua soil amazonia" which is expensive but worth the money and comes in dark brown color and u could order it online if u dont find it in a petstore.
Although a plant specific substrate will aid in plant growth, it isn't a requirement IMHO.

I have 3 tanks that are overgrown every other week and I use nothing more than the standard gravel you'd find in a LPS. There's a lot more that goes into growing good aquatic plants than just substrate....
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Old December 2nd, 2009  
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Although a plant specific substrate will aid in plant growth, it isn't a requirement IMHO.

I have 3 tanks that are overgrown every other week and I use nothing more than the standard gravel you'd find in a LPS. There's a lot more that goes into growing good aquatic plants than just substrate....
very true
and i actually mixed normal gravel with a brand of substrate called acti flora i think?
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Old December 2nd, 2009  
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I redid my tank, added some more plants, and some new fish
hopefully pics up soon
really feel like its a bit overstocked and need a new tank but low on mulla
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