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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Bubbles on the surface

The top of my tank is covered in bubbles. I set my 20 gallon tank up on 9/22 and added fish on 9/25. The bubbles didn't start until about a week later and they are still there. Is there anything I can do to get rid of the bubbles?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Wow....I have never seen anything like that before. How are the fish doing?
It almost looks like an additive that may have been in your water that's causing it to bubble. Is it foam-like?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Wow! I've never seen that many bubbles in a tank. Do you have an air stone in the tank?I agree with Amanda, it could be some soap residue that was left in the tank if you did use soap to clean the tank.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
That is a lot of bubbles, Filters usually make bubbles on the surface but that is way too much! When your filter spits out water is it splashing the water? That might cause the bubbles but still I think it's way too much!
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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I haven't added anything unusual. I added stress zyme and ammo lock. I added neutral regulator, stress coat, baking soda, little aquarium salt, and a dechlorinizer when I first set up the tank. There is a low reading of ammonia in the water. Could the bubbles be a result of a little bit of ammonia? The fish are doing good except I had a cory die in there couple days ago but he wasn't eating so I think that was his problem.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I see this to a much less degree in my 55, it happens above a large amazon sword and semi-close to the heater.
Don't know if that helps.
Beth
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
So your tank isn't cycled? Are you doing large water changes everyday?
You added baking soda to your tank?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
There is an air stone in there. I never used soap in this tank, only damp paper towels to clean it when I first bought it. The water is not splashing from the filter.

A very little amount of Baking soda is a buffering for the water hardness.

I am not doing large water changes everyday. If you do large water changes everyday how does that allow bacteria to develop?

Last edited by Lucy; October 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason: merging back to back posts, you can use the edit button to add to a post
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
The bacteria are in your filter & gravel - not the water.
The large WC's remove the ammonia which is toxic to your fish. During a cycle, a 50% WC should be done everyday.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
You shouldn't be having any ammonia by now if you started your tank on 9/22. You should see some high levels of nitrate and a small level of nitrites. What's your dosage with the baking soda? Here's a thread from a diff. site I found on google talking about baking soda and doses.
http://www.3reef.com/forums/water-ch...-ph-45018.html
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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I added 1/4 of a teaspoon when I set up the tank. I have done one water change since then and didn't add anymore.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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I'm amazed your fish have survived this long - as I said before, a cycling tank needs frequent WC's. It may also help remove whatever is causing the bubbles.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Hmm...What's your water parameters. For some reason you are getting a lot of oxygen in your tank or some sort of residue is lurking in there.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
pH = 7.0-7.2
Nitrate = 0
nitrite = 0
Ammonia = 4 (added ammo lock which kills the ammonia but doesn't change the test results)

About to do a water change. Do those results show that the tank has cycled besides the ammonia?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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Amanda I am taking your advice and doing a water change but I have a story for you. My dad has a 29 gallon tank that was abandoned for 3 years and got completely covered in algae. He put a little pleco in there and it cleared the whole tank up and didn't do a water change until 2 yrs after adding him. He is still alive and is about a 12" now.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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Stress coat will sometimes cause surface bubbles. It doesn't evaporate when the water does. When continuing to add water with stress coat the stress coat builds up. It's not harmful to the fish but can be unsightly. The aloe in the stress coat is what does it.

We hear stories like the one about the Pleco once in awhile. Glad the Pleco survived many don't. Survive is the key word- surviving doesn't mean thrive. If that is a common pleco as I suspect in two years he should be approx 18 inches. Plecos being the poo makers they are I bet that tank was a mess
Carol
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
The fish may have survived, doesn't make it humane or right though...
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Plecos are also one of the hardiest fish. From the looks of your parameters your tank tank is uncycled.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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Your ammonia is 4?
This tank needs to have daily water done until the cycle is complete.
Adding all that stuff plus the ammonia reading isn't good for your fish.
The best way to handle ammonia is to get the tank cycled, not with products.
It's my understanding that ammo-lock will detox the ammonia, not get rid of it.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Wow, that's alot of bubbles! Air bubbles not popping means you have poor water quality.

http://www.firsttankguide.net/aquarium_bubbles.php#

Last edited by AlyeskaGirl; October 22nd, 2009 at 12:42 PM.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Yes Lucy that is true it detoxes the ammonia which will help the fish survive until the tank is cycled. What should be the nitrate and nitrite readings on a cycled tank?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10-20

Did you wash your filter media with tap water?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Moderator
 
I aree with eiginh. This tank should be cycled if it was started on 9/22.
Are you still adding stress zyme or an other bacterial additive?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
I added stress zyme and ammo lock 2 days ago but before that about 3 weeks ago. I do not wash my filter media because won't that get rid of the bacteria I need. I have an aqueon power filter 20. I changed the filter cartridge last weekend and before I added the new one I washed it under tap water.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Yes I was asking b/c that might of killed your cycle. Like what the others have stated do daily w/cs and add your water conditioner each time. If you have a heater that would be great as heat tends to speed up the cycle rate.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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Why are you using baking soda? What is neutral regulator and why are you using it?

Imo, this is what I'd do. (depending on the answers to the questions)
Stop using all the additives execpt ammo-lock, if it dechlorinates also.
If it doesn't, switch to Prime. It dechlorinates and detox's ammonia for 24 hours.
Begin doing daily water changes until your readings are 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite with some nitrates. I like mine at 5-10, but as eiginh said, 10-20 is ok.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
He's using baking soda as a buffer for his water hardness.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
I used the baking soda once. A neutral regulator brings you pH to 7.0. I am using it because my tap water has a high pH for when I do water changes. I am not arguing the daily water changes just curious, wouldn't constant environment changes add a lot of stress to the fish in the tank?
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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He's using baking soda as a buffer for his water hardness.
Thanks Since I don't know anything about buffers, ignore my suggestion about not using it. I can't advise one way or another one it.
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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Np, me neither until I googled it lol.

Off topic but I'm surprised googled is not a dictionary word haha. it's underlined with a red color.
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