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Old October 18th, 2009  
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Guppy help!

I put stress zyme plus in my 10 gallon tank yesterday and i got 6 guppies today, 2 male and 4 female, i looked now and one of the males was spazzing out swimming then stopping and floating then i looked later and he was stcuk against my filter intake, dead what was wrong? the water does not look cloudy was he sick from the store?
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Old October 18th, 2009  
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Hi Wonderfulge, Welcome to Fishlore! How long has your tank been set up for? Knowing this could help determine what might have happenend to you guppy.
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Old October 18th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Hi Wonder and WELCOME TO FISHLORE!

There could be many possibilities from this case. Your Guppy could've been sick when you bought him at the store. Or could be ammonia poisoning? What are your water readings? It will help if you could update your aquarium info so members can help you. Keep us updated yeah?
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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Hello Wonderfulge and Welcome to Fish Lore. So sorry to hear about your new fish loss. Once you answer the questions above we'll be able to help you more.
I hope you enjoy the site!
Ken

Last edited by aquarist48; October 19th, 2009 at 06:56 AM.
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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my ammonia level is good and my tank has been set up for 3 days previously

i also put in some small and one big piece of corral at the bottom that i got from scuba diving in hawaii is it ok that i put it in my tank? the rocks have holes i them so i figured they would be good baceria filters.

Just to let you know I've merged your two threads to save some space. You can use the "edit" key at the bottom of every post for corrections and additional thoughts. Thanks!
Ken

Last edited by aquarist48; October 19th, 2009 at 06:45 AM. Reason: Back to back posts
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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The Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle
Hello Wonderfulge. I'm afraid your tank isn't cycled. The above link will go into great detail and it's crucial to fish keeping. The Stress Zyme that you've added does not contain the correct bacteria for cycling your tank. You say that your ammonia reading is good, however, if it isn't 0 then I'm afraid your fish may be suffering from ammonia poisoning. If this is the case then daily 30 to 50% water changes, adding some Prime or Amquel + to detox the ammonia for 24 hours until it's time for the next water change.
What type of test are you using? Test strips or liquid tests?
Ken
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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I put stress zyme plus in my 10 gallon tank yesterday and i got 6 guppies today, 2 male and 4 female, i looked now and one of the males was spazzing out swimming then stopping and floating then i looked later and he was stcuk against my filter intake, dead what was wrong? the water does not look cloudy was he sick from the store?
welcome wonderfulge!
unfortunately stress zyme isnt the right bacteria needed to cycle a tank..it wont self sustain and be strong enough without adding it all the time, to keep the cycle going....at this point, you need to find some amquel+ OR prime and do daily water changes....what test kit are you using and what were the last readings you got for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates?

as far as using the coral, as long as you boiled it and your pH in your tap isnt too low (coral will raise the ph in your tank) you should be ok...but if your tap is low on ph, when you do water changes, it could be a ph shock for your fish....good luck!
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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Did you acclimatise the fish by slowly adding tank water to their floating bags first? It might have been a ph shock if you didnt.

I would also recommend reading up about the nitrogen cycle to ensure the rest of your fish stay healthy . Dont worry you are in good hands here!
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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lol thanks everyone but i think the tank cycled already the rest of the fish r healthy
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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First of all what are your ammonia readings when you meant "The ammonia level is good"

And your tank cant cycle in 3 days even with stress zyme.

So please tell us what the reading of ammonia was, if you have a test kit.
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Old October 19th, 2009  
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Helo Wonderfulge an Welcome!

What are your exact readings?
We often go to a LFS and get our water tested and we get the usual " fine" LOL

Also, you mentioned using stress zyme, as shawnie said it contains the wrong kind of bacteria, making it seem ike your tank is cycled, but it is actually starving the good bacteria which is generating. You see, the bacteria needs the ammonia ( its kinda like its food ) so if something else is using up the ammonia ( Stress zyme) it wil kill it.

If you woud rather use a product that will speed up your cycle, then most of us reccomend TETRA SAFESTART it is the only bacteria in a bottle that will ACTUALLY cycle the tank.

Also, if your fish died of ammonia poisoning, then i would suggest you do 40-50% water changes daily to keep keep the leves down, as wel as adding Prime. Prime is a detoxifying product that will detox the ammonia and nitrites for the first 24hrs, so the enxt day when you do a WC you dose again, and so on.
Hope i helped
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Old October 20th, 2009  
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where could i find safestart? would bio-spira also work? i checked in petsmart and they gave me the stress zyme plus...
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Old October 20th, 2009  
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also could i do no waer changes and just add a full dose of the stress zyme plus every day?
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Old October 20th, 2009  
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where could i find safestart? would bio-spira also work? i checked in petsmart and they gave me the stress zyme plus...
Bio-spira is the same product of safestart according to some members. Correct me if I'm wrong. So bio-spira should work. You could order TSS online
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Old October 20th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Over here in NZ, Tetra Safestart is called Bio-spira.
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Old October 20th, 2009  
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ok thanks and also i thought it had to be refrigerated but it says none needed, dont they say that because all the bacteria is probably dead inside if it doesnt need to be refrigerated?
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Old October 20th, 2009  
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also should i leave my top aquarium lights on all day for the 2 peackock ferns i just got in my aquarium? thanks
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Old October 20th, 2009  
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where could i find safestart? would bio-spira also work? i checked in petsmart and they gave me the stress zyme plus...
There used to be two different versions of BioSpira, BioSpira for Fresh water and BioSpira for Salt Water. Then a new version of BioSpira for Fresh Water was created that did not require refrigeration. This new version was bought out by Tetra and was renamed Tetra SafeStart.

So as far as I know, BioSpira for Saltwater is still available, but and BioSpira for Fresh Water that you see in a store would be over one year old.
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