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Old October 7th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
It is still missing sparkling gourami and olive nerite snail but great tool!
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Old October 7th, 2009  
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A friend of mine recently created a site that can help you determine how much you can stock for your given tank. This is something he coded using spare time and it is far from complete. If you are interested, please try this out:

http://www.AqAdvisor.com

Just to give you some feeling, this program does NOT use a simple formula such as inch per gallon. It maintains a significant DB of fishes with 19 attributes per each species. Each species also features its own bioload for their given sizes hence not all fishes are handled the same. Surface area of the water is more important than the total volume of the tank.

Thanks!
The site has been overhauled and is much better. Even takes into account filtration, although not multiple filters yet.
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Old October 7th, 2009  
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It is still missing sparkling gourami and olive nerite snail but great tool!
Those will make it in the next build - I promiss.

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The site has been overhauled and is much better. Even takes into account filtration, although not multiple filters yet.
I have been releasing roughly one build per week with additional features. It does have more complete features compare to what it was about a month ago. I will continue to update the site though, so look for more new features! (including multiple filters!)

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Old October 7th, 2009  
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Cool!
http://www.aqadvisor.com/AquStockIma...ond%20Snail%29
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Old October 7th, 2009  
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Cool site, from someone who codes for a living!

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Old October 8th, 2009  
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I think you wanted to do this:

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Cool site, from someone who codes for a living!

BassNFool
But as you can see, aesthetics isn't one of my strengths...

I merged your posts. Thanks! Ken

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Old October 8th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
I like it. It does seem weird how my pleco is too aggressive for my gouramis, and it's also too big to co exist with my pictus catfish. Maybe I should read up more. I guess all that matters is that mine seem perfectly fine.
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Old October 8th, 2009  
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I like it. It does seem weird how my pleco is too aggressive for my gouramis, and it's also too big to co exist with my pictus catfish. Maybe I should read up more. I guess all that matters is that mine seem perfectly fine.
I need to look into your case and see if DB numbers make sense. I suspect some of your species require some further fine tuning. Pleco and Gourami should be ok together.
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Old October 9th, 2009  
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No worries I know they are fine so everything is good.
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Old October 9th, 2009  
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No worries I know they are fine so everything is good.
I've tuned them further. For the next release, you will find that your combo will be reported as ok...
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Old October 10th, 2009  
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i was wondering if you could check something please

it says my raphael catfish is too big for my mollies, guppies and he will most likely eat them. i have researched this fish alot and he will only get to 6" maximum 7 if he is a female.

i have a 32g tank 36L 18H 13W and has 367 GPH fiter...

Thanks!
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Old October 10th, 2009  
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I'm quite pleased with the outcome for my albino tank. I thought it would say something about keeping an angel with a betta.
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Old October 10th, 2009  
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i was wondering if you could check something please

i have a 32g tank 36L 18H 13W and has 367 GPH fiter...

Thanks!
it says my raphael catfish is too big for my mollies, guppies and he will most likely eat them. i have researched this fish alot and he will only get to 6" maximum 7 if he is a female.
My fish DB says 8 inches which could be an over estimation on my part. I'll fix it and that will probably be enough to remove the warning in this case...

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I'm quite pleased with the outcome for my albino tank. I thought it would say something about keeping an angel with a betta.
I read up more on betta vs Angels. It appears that both tend to nip fins and both feature long fins... wow. not a good combo. I'll update both as fin nippers. It should appear in the next build.
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Old October 10th, 2009  
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thanks!
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Old October 11th, 2009  
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This is a pretty good tool. It has me currently at 100% stock, which is about right. If I include my currently 3.5 month old platy fry in the stocking list as a fully grown fish it puts me at 111% stock - which will also be about right once she's an adult.
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Old October 11th, 2009  
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This is a pretty good tool. It has me currently at 100% stock, which is about right. If I include my currently 3.5 month old platy fry in the stocking list as a fully grown fish it puts me at 111% stock - which will also be about right once she's an adult.
Excellent! Platy was my first fish so I have a soft spot in my heart towards them.

What's new for 2009 10 14 build:
- Common Pleco attributes have been updated.
- Added Sparkling Gourami and other Gourami species.
- Added Olive Nerite Snail.
- Added more pleco species.
- Does not display water parameter ranges when no species are selected.
- Added AquaClear Mini/150/200/300/500 series filters.
- Added Lustar Hydro Sponge 1-5 series filters.
- Added Electric Blue Jack Dempsey.
- Added Reedfish.
- Added Elephantnose fish.
- Added Peacock Eeel
- Exception List has been implemented. First application for this is to define interbreeding possibilities. Platy-Swordtale-Molly group selected together now reports warning and so does Bolivian Ram-German Blue Ram pair. This will need to expand over time.
- Allows for 2 filter setup.
- Allows user to define filter capacities for those who own filters not on the list already.
- Total number of species in DB has been increased to 259.

New features:

- Updated algorithm to calculate filtration capacity.
- Will auto-fill tank dimensions if user selects one of the pre-determined tanks.
- Help texts have been added for "Filter Selection", "Narrow Search" and "Search String" features.
- Fixed a bug - "Narrow Search" was only searching from common names, ingoring scientific names.
- Added Aqua-Tech filters.
- Added Fluval U3 filter.
- Added Ruby Shark.
- Added African Knifefish.
- Added Banjo Catfish.
- Added Hoplosternum.
- Added Senegal Bichir.
- Added Checkered/Checker Barb.
- Added Bumble Bee/Hornet Cichlid.
- Added Dragon Goby.
- Added African Dwarf Frog.
- Added Head and Tail Light Tetra.
- Fine tuned attributes for RTB/Rainbow/Ruby sharks based on their aggression.
- Bioloads of snails have been adjusted downwards. Received quite a few comments with respect to this.
- Different species of Julidochromis have been marked as incompatible due to interbreeding possibilities.
- Attribute for Bleeding Heart Tetra has been updated.
- Bioload of Khuli Loach has been adjusted downwards.
- Apistogramma agassizii and Julidochromis species have been marked as territorial between themselves. If the tank is not large enough, a warning will be displayed.
- Total number of species in DB has been increased to 272.

Please check out www.aqadvisor.com

Last edited by Lucy; November 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 AM. Reason: merging back to back to back posts
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Old October 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I guess I have to my angel to a new tank soon!

http://www.aqadvisor.com/AquStockIma...m%20scalare%29 :-x
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Old October 21st, 2009  
Fish Master
 
please remember to do all your research before relying/depending on a site/tool to do it for you...although they will help and be something you can use as a backup, its not set in gold and its going on the creators opinions and hard work looking up and reading on each individual situations/fish....something we all should do
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Old October 21st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I think someone set that reminder in an earlier post but thanks for reminding again!
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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I think someone set that reminder in an earlier post but thanks for reminding again!
it wasnt a post meant for you eiginh it was for ANYONE reading this thread...
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Old October 21st, 2009  
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Old October 22nd, 2009  
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please remember to do all your research before relying/depending on a site/tool to do it for you...although they will help and be something you can use as a backup, its not set in gold and its going on the creators opinions and hard work looking up and reading on each individual situations/fish....something we all should do
I second this!

So far, I have received rather significant amount of feedback because of the confusion on how to enter your own tank dimension.

As a short term fix, I've changed the way how tank dimensions work. Now it no longer disables input for the tank dimension (so that you can type your own numbers whenever you want) and "User Defined" item is now at the top of the list so that you can see it easily.

Enjoy!

What's new for 2009 10 28 build:
- Added Haplochromis sp. 44
- Added Pitbull/Goby Pleco.
- Added Apple Snail. Scientific name has been updated.
- Added Peckoltia sp. L387.
- Added Figure Eight Puffer.
- Added Bumblebee Goby.
- Added Green Spotted/Leopard Puffer.
- Added Fahaka/Nile Puffer.
- Added Blood Parrot.
- Added Spotted Port/Brown Hoplo.
- Added Red Belly Pacu.
- Added Golden Gourami.
- Aggression for Raphael Catfishes have been adjusted down.
- Aggression for African Knife Fish has been adjusted up.
- Size of Sailfin Molly has been adjusted down.
- Minimum space requirement for Pond Snail has been marked down.
- Added Marineland C-series canister filters.
- Added Marineland Eclipse series filters.
- Added TetraTec EX series filters.
- Added Tetra Whisper series filters.
- Moved "User Defined" item up on the filter lists for better visibility.
- Fixed a bug - pre-determined tank dimentsions weren't getting auto-populated in some browsers (e.g. older versions of Internet Explorer)
- Fixed a bug - selecting filter did not auto populate the capacity fields in some browsers. (e.g. older versions of Internet Explorer)
- Fixed a bug - "Clear fish selection" didn't retain water temperature & volume units.
- New feature - partial removal of the selected species can now be done. i.e. you can now remove only 1 of 6 already selected neon tetras. Help link has been provided.
- New feature - will display warning if selected species require brakish water. For now, it will not determine brakish compatibility against other selected species, so every brakish species will generate warnings.
- Total number of species in DB has been increased to 287.
- Total number of filters in DB has been increased to 62.
- Total number of tank types has been increased to 47. It now includes more bowfronts, hexes, and flatback hexes.

As usual, please check out www.aqadvisor.com if you are interested.

Hi again,

I've received quite a few responses regarding aqadvisor.com not auto-populating tank parameters when pre-defined tanks were selected in the previous release. 2009 10 28 Build should have fixed it in theory assuming it was caused because of how JavaScript works on the older versions of IE.

If you are still experiencing this issue, please let me know. I'd like to look further into this. So far, I received zero feedback on this so I am assuming this problem is resolved.

What's new for 2009 11 02 build:
- Added Badis Badis.
- Added Chili/Mosquito Rasbora.
- Added Celestial Pearl Danio.
- Added Trapdoor snail.
- Minimum tank size requirement for Clown Pleco has been reduced.
- Minimum tank size requirement for Betta has been reduced to 2.5g. Now it will correctly display stock % for 2.5g tanks as well.
- Bioloads for shrimps have been further adjusted down.
- Temperature requirement for Gold Fish species have been narrowed to more realistic numbers.
- Some of the puffer species have been identified as brakish.
- Diamond Tetra aggression has been updated. It should be ok now with more aggressive tetras.
- Aggression for some aggressive Tetras (black phantom, skirt, black widow and serpae) have been downgraded. Lots of people were confirming that they do not have this issues.
- Territorial aggression algorithm has been completely revamped. It works for all bottom dwellers (assuming DB is accurate). Territorial male behaviors and breeding pair aggressions are all accounted for. Previous breeding pair detection warning is now disabled since this revamp covers this case as well. This algorithm may require further fine tuning!
- Minimum number for shoaling species have been reduced from 6 to 5. Got lots of responses saying they have 5 and they are fine, which is probably true.
- Minimum number for nippy shoaling species have been reduced from 9 to 6, again based on user feedback so far.
- Bioload for the smallest and thinnest species have been brought up slightly. Received some comments that the site is too generous with small fishes.
- Added 35g tall tank.
- Added Tetra Whisper series filters.
- Added Tetra PF series filters.
- Added Aquarium System Millenium series filters.
- Added Danner series filters.
- Added Cascade series filters.
- Added more Eheim canister filters.
- Added Marineland Multi-Stage series canisters.
- Added Top Fin Power series filters.
- Added Hagen Fluval Internal U series filters.
- Added Tetra Whisper internal series filters.
- Filter list has been sorted in more logical order for humans to use.
- Filtration capacities have been slightly updated on some filters as it was set a bit too harsh on some models.
- "What's this" has been added for "Generate Image" feature.
- Total number of filters in DB has been increased to 105.
- Total number of species in DB has been increased to 293.

Please check out www.aqadvisor.com if you are interested.

Last edited by Lucy; November 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 AM. Reason: merging back to back posts, please use the edit button
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yhbae View Post
What's new for 2009 11 02 build:
- Added Badis Badis.
- Added Chili/Mosquito Rasbora.
- Added Celestial Pearl Danio.
- Added Trapdoor snail.
- Minimum tank size requirement for Clown Pleco has been reduced.
- Minimum tank size requirement for Betta has been reduced to 2.5g. Now it will correctly display stock % for 2.5g tanks as well.
- Bioloads for shrimps have been further adjusted down.
- Temperature requirement for Gold Fish species have been narrowed to more realistic numbers.
- Some of the puffer species have been identified as brakish.
- Diamond Tetra aggression has been updated. It should be ok now with more aggressive tetras.
- Aggression for some aggressive Tetras (black phantom, skirt, black widow and serpae) have been downgraded. Lots of people were confirming that they do not have this issues.
- Territorial aggression algorithm has been completely revamped. It works for all bottom dwellers (assuming DB is accurate). Territorial male behaviors and breeding pair aggressions are all accounted for. Previous breeding pair detection warning is now disabled since this revamp covers this case as well. This algorithm may require further fine tuning!
- Minimum number for shoaling species have been reduced from 6 to 5. Got lots of responses saying they have 5 and they are fine, which is probably true.
- Minimum number for nippy shoaling species have been reduced from 9 to 6, again based on user feedback so far.
- Bioload for the smallest and thinnest species have been brought up slightly. Received some comments that the site is too generous with small fishes.
- Added 35g tall tank.
- Added Tetra Whisper series filters.
- Added Tetra PF series filters.
- Added Aquarium System Millenium series filters.
- Added Danner series filters.
- Added Cascade series filters.
- Added more Eheim canister filters.
- Added Marineland Multi-Stage series canisters.
- Added Top Fin Power series filters.
- Added Hagen Fluval Internal U series filters.
- Added Tetra Whisper internal series filters.
- Filter list has been sorted in more logical order for humans to use.
- Filtration capacities have been slightly updated on some filters as it was set a bit too harsh on some models.
- "What's this" has been added for "Generate Image" feature.
- Total number of filters in DB has been increased to 105.
- Total number of species in DB has been increased to 293.

Please check out www.aqadvisor.com if you are interested.
I had a problem with the Black phantom's being too aggresive with my cherry barbs when in fact they are the most timid fish I own - I don't see where their reputation for aggression comes from.

Anyway, with the current build I have found a huge bug. I can't add more than 1 species. Say, I add 10 neon tetras. Good, 10 neon tetras are on the list. Then I add 3 Mollies... And the neons dissapear, leaving only the mollies on the list. It is also not displaying any of the %'s etc. underneath, despite the fact all the fields are filled out.

Would it be possible to add the Fluval Plus series of filters? Thanks.
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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I had a problem with the Black phantom's being too aggresive with my cherry barbs when in fact they are the most timid fish I own - I don't see where their reputation for aggression comes from.

Anyway, with the current build I have found a huge bug. I can't add more than 1 species. Say, I add 10 neon tetras. Good, 10 neon tetras are on the list. Then I add 3 Mollies... And the neons dissapear, leaving only the mollies on the list. It is also not displaying any of the %'s etc. underneath, despite the fact all the fields are filled out.

Would it be possible to add the Fluval Plus series of filters? Thanks.
Doh... Looks like I made a mistake deploying the last night's build. It wasn't working properly. I just fixed it - sorry about that.

You will find that this build will no longer complain about your black phantom/cherry combo. This is the second time I am hearing the Fluval plus series - those are not the same as "I" series internal filters, correct?
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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http://www.aqadvisor.com/AquStockIma...6&D=8&H=10&F=2 x African Dwarf Frog (Hymenochirus boettgeri),3 x Zebra Danio (Danio rerio),4 x neon tetra (Paracheirodon innesi),1 x Oto (Otocinclus vittatus),3 x Malaysian Trumpet Snail (Melanoides tuberculata)

That was my results.... great site, I really liked it.

Is this good??

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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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http://www.aqadvisor.com/AquStockIma...6&D=8&H=10&F=2 x African Dwarf Frog (Hymenochirus boettgeri),3 x Zebra Danio (Danio rerio),4 x Neon Tetra (Paracheirodon innesi),1 x Oto (Otocinclus vittatus),3 x Malaysian Trumpet Snail (Melanoides tuberculata)

That was my results.... great site, I really liked it.
Glad you liked it...

I think you didn't paste the link as a link in this forum.
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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http://www.aqadvisor.com/AquStockIma...6&D=8&H=10&F=2 x African Dwarf Frog (Hymenochirus boettgeri),3 x Zebra Danio (Danio rerio),4 x Neon Tetra (Paracheirodon innesi),1 x Oto (Otocinclus vittatus),3 x Malaysian Trumpet Snail (Melanoides tuberculata)

That was my results.... great site, I really liked it.

Is this good??
The link is broken.
Remember just because a tool says you can do something doesn't mean it will necessarily work.
Take for instance your ADF's.
Does the tool take into consideration that the faster fish could get to the food faster than the ADF can find find it?
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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The link is broken.
Remember just because a tool says you can do something doesn't mean it will necessarily work.
Take for instance your ADF's.
Does the tool take into consideration that the faster fish could get to the food faster than the ADF can find find it?
Lucy is right. Currently, this is a BIOLOAD calculator with a bit of compatibility/aggression rules implemented. I didn't even think about food distribution within the tank... haha. I'll include that in the list so that some day, I can look into that too...
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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PLEASE members...especially new fish keepers...im once again going to repeat to NOT rely on a website of any kind, even ours, to give you accurate and totally true to form information about your fish and tanks....research many sites before you assume things are fine...we all learn from one another here, and as well as other forums, but I cant stress enough that its all about the research and not the quick fix for something you have questions about..each site is built on a persons perspective as well as information they have researched from others....theres a ton of information out there and just plugging something into a website and thinking its totally accurate, could end up in disaster if all the mediating circumstances arent considered.........thank you!!!!
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Old November 2nd, 2009  
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PLEASE members...especially new fish keepers...im once again going to repeat to NOT rely on a website of any kind, even ours, to give you accurate and totally true to form information about your fish and tanks....research many sites before you assume things are fine...we all learn from one another here, and as well as other forums, but I cant stress enough that its all about the research and not the quick fix for something you have questions about..each site is built on a persons perspective as well as information they have researched from others....theres a ton of information out there and just plugging something into a website and thinking its totally accurate, could end up in disaster if all the mediating circumstances arent considered.........thank you!!!!
I'll include a similar message on my site too...
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