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Old September 3rd, 2009  
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I managed to find "Goldex household ammonia" which is apparently OK to use...

I spent a good 10 minutes looking at the hundreds of labels in the cleaning aisle in wall-mart. *ding*, then I saw "Goldex Household ammonia, I got all excited; Contains no Phosphates or fragrances; "For all-purpose household cleaning, laundry, wax stripping and stain removal"

"FIRST AID TREATMENT: This product contains ammonia. If swallowed... etc. etc."

So I got home, since the bottle was not clear, I poured some into an empty water bottle, shaked it, voila!!!! It foams! But the foams disappeared in a few seconds.

*HAIR PULL!* What do you think?? Yay or Nay?
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Last edited by Lucy; September 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 PM. Reason: abbreviations for a curse word is still curing and against the rules.
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Old September 3rd, 2009  
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I've always read that it shouldn't foam.
I went and shook te bottle of ammonia I used to cycle (with funny looks from my husband lol)
There's a couple bubbles, but no foam.

Edit:
From this thread:
Ammonia instructions for a fishless cycle
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard7467
Pure ammonia will only list ammonia and water as ingredients. Chelating agents are ok. Without going into great detail, that is simply a bonding agent that keeps the ammonia and water "mixed". If it lists dyes, fragrances or surfactants, you don't want it. If the bottle doesn't have an ingredient label, shake the bottle. If it foams, it won't work. A few air bubbles that disappear immediately are ok.

Last edited by Lucy; September 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 PM.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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Ok let me upload the youtube vid with me shaking the bottle...

okay, this should be the link, I don't know how long it will take for it for youtube to process:


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Old September 4th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Hey. What's this all about? Putting ammonia in a tank? Why? I never heard about this. Someone explain please.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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He is trying to cycle a tank with pure ammonia instead of fish or fishless cycle
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Old September 4th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Originally Posted by Confuzedd View Post
Ok let me upload the youtube vid with me shaking the bottle...

okay, this should be the link, I don't know how long it will take for it for youtube to process:

Hey you have the same floor I do if it is linoleum. What are the benefits of cycling your tank with ammonia?
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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It's just the more humane way of doing it, since subjecting your fish to high levels of ammonia during the cycling will harm the fish. When the fish get stressesd out, it increases the chances of the fish sprouting out diseases such as ICH.

Now I'm not too sure, but a lot of fish might die after the completion of the cycling period. In other words, you could save money. The biggest pian though, is finding the right kind of ammonia

It might also be quicker to cycle, since you have full control of the ammonia levels.

Basically, it boils down:

1) Putting in pure ammonia into your fish tank. Just the right amount so you have roughly 2.0 to 5.0 PPM after testing with a kit.

2) Then you wait (probably several days), for the ammonia levels in your fish tank to reach at least 0.25 ppm, and then you add more ammonia to bring it back up to 2 to 5 ppm.

3) You keep repeating this cycle. On another forum I frequent, they mention that you are well cycled if 2.0 ppm of ammonia reaches 0 in less than 12 hours.

I could be missing a whole bunch of other details, such as measuring nitrites. So don't take my quick guide as the "everything you'll need to know"

Last edited by Lucy; September 4th, 2009 at 08:04 AM. Reason: edited for curse wrod abbreviation
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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I wish I could help you Confuzedd but I've never used it myself.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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ok thats not what i wrote...

Dont i know it!! and they very few other members has listed i cant get in Australia darn it!!! so frustrating isnt it!!?? ya try to do the right thing...

Thats what i said but it bleeped out the first few words and i dont know why?? i know i swear alot but 'dont i know' didnt seem that bad to me lol

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Old September 4th, 2009  
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ok thats not what i wrote...

Dont i know it!! and they very few other members has listed i cant get in Australia darn it!!! so frustrating isnt it!!?? ya try to do the right thing...

Thats what i said but it bleeped out the first few words and i dont know why?? i know i swear alot but 'dont i know' didnt seem that bad to me lol

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It was "bleeped" because this is a family friendly site with allot of young members and language has to be very careful
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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lol no problem. Good luck on finding the ammonia. I mean it... good luck. I thought I had the right one but I am now having doubts after shaking it.
Since you're having problems finding the right kind of ammonia, You can use a peice of raw shrimp. Put it in a mesh bag and hang it in the tank and let nature do it's thing.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Confuzedd View Post
Ok let me upload the youtube vid with me shaking the bottle...

okay, this should be the link, I don't know how long it will take for it for youtube to process:

Im making guess here as ive never used the ammonia method, but this looks like the right stuff ....it has bubbles in the vid but no foam what do you think lucy?
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Old September 4th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
I don't think that that is what someone would call foam. I think it's just the air bubbles that you're causing. Even water does that.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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Yeah, I agree, it looks like bubbles not foam.
Foam would look soapy.

Love that you wrote toxic on the bottle. That's so important.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
If you already have tanks ready to go you can use some of the old filter media to seed the new tank. You can also "silent cycle" with lots of plants.
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Old September 4th, 2009  
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It was "bleeped" because this is a family friendly site with allot of young members and language has to be very careful
But it bleeped out "Dont i know it" thats not bad is it?? sorry if it is i will watch my mouth / fingers, im a bogan its just habit lol sorry again.
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Old September 6th, 2009  
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This thread got very confusing and strayed away from the original topic.
small_frys questions and the answers given have been moved to a thread of it's own.
It can be found here:
Cycling
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