fishlover71

Aw, thats the cutest guppy ever! About the fish, I think he's fine, But you should keep an eye on him, i guess he seems a little lethargic, but you may wanna turn the tempreture down..

kaystar

Just done a 40/45% water change done have any Prime though i will pick some up tomorrow on way to work and come home in my lunch and put some in, can i get it from a local pet shop (pets at home)?

Oh just curious why the other 2 fish dont seem to be affected? Is there a reason for this?

Lucy

Sometimes a weaker fish will be effected more. Problem is, they probably are being effected it's just that they're not showing outside symptoms.....yet.

You should be able to get Prime at most any fish store. You might to call first.

kaystar

Oh ok i hope he will get better Is it called Prime in the UK? or somthing else?

ABCDemily

I don't think Prime exists in the UK. I may be wrong however.

kaystar

Oh what other product could i use?

Lucy

The guppy has clamped fins, which isn't a sign of a healthy fish.

I hope he feels better soon too. Hopefully once the ammonia gets undr control, he will.
I'm not sure about the availablity of Prime in the UK, I'm sorry.

kaystar

Ive been looking on the internet for a product in the UK that is the same as Prime and im not having much luck is there a UK forumer that can maybe suggest somthing?

Lucy

I'm not familiar with UK forums. Maybe start a thread asking where our UK members found Prime or if they can recommend a similar product.

kaystar

Good idea thanks so much for all the help, i know Tac is very greatful

ABCDemily

Just a thought: Did you add enough TSS? Maybe you didn't add enough and the ammonia has built up faster than the new bacteria can catch up. How much do you have left?

kaystar

Added 1ml to every liter i think i was, i have been added it hwne doing a water change too, id that right? or shouldi stop? I got the ammonia product today and added it soon as i got in, how long does it take to work, or before we see if its working?

ABCDemily

Basically with TSS you need to use Tetra AquaSafe, and not do any water changes for the ten days after you added it. Wait until you've finished with the ammo treatment then maybe add more dependant on the result.

kaystar

Ok, so ive done the ammonia treatment now, shall i wait awhile for it to start taking affects before i do another water change? or do one asap? and add more ammonia treatment and tss?

hantsgal

Just to let you know that Prime is available in the UK but none of the LFS I've been to seem to stock it. I got mine from ebay and it was the only thing that got my fish through some dodgy water conditions. well Prime and a lot of water changes!!

kaystar

Oh ok thanks, i will have to go to a few diffrent pet shops around if not i think i will get some of ebay too.

harpua2002

Sorry you're having trouble with cycling. I agree that large, frequent water changes are the way to go until the tank cycles, and that a liquid test kit would be a good idea. Do you have any friends that have aquariums that could give you a used filter pad or a handful of gravel or anything?

This is exactly why I don't understand the widespread recommendations for TSS. Just like BioSpira, there are plenty of cases where it doesn't work... and even when it does work in a few days, the fish still suffer until then. Media transfer or fishless cycling are the only sure bets IMO.
*climbs off soapbox now*

kaystar

Dont know anyone else that has fish been in to look at my sick fish (tac is his name) and hes looking worse his tail is mroe clamped and his tail is drooping alot the other two fish are looking good though. Ive not fed them today, should i? Im going to have a drive out tomorow to a large pet store where they sell loads fish products to see if i can get some prime then do a 70% water change and hhope that it helps tac and that im not to late