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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
What is this weird thing on my pregnant guppy?

Hi what is this weird sack thing on my pregnant guppy?
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Old July 26th, 2009  
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I'm not sure but it looks like a prolapse.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
What is a prolapse? Is it bad
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Moderator
 
If that's what it is, yes, it's bad.
I don't know that much about guppies or live bearers but sometimes (I don't know why)
they can get a prolapse of the uterus or intestines.
I've read that sometimes it can correct it's self. Other times it's fatal to the fish.

Wait and see what others have to say. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Oh no

what about the babies?
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Are you sure that's a female? The tail looks male.
You might want to Q your guppy so it doesn't get picked at.
Here's a couple of threads about it:
sick guppy
tumors
HELP...what's happening to my guppies

IMO, I wouldn't try the salt treatment that's in the 3rd link. I provided that to you for the picture.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Did she give birth a couple days ago? if so it could be her uterus like lucy said, it sometimes corrects itself. i never had that happen to me, but ive heard it does happen when large numbers of fry are born at the same time. Lets wait for someone who knows for sure.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
I am 100% sure it is a female..... she has had like 5 batches of fry...... she did not give berth yet but any day now..... she is by herself in a 2 gallon tank right now
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Old July 26th, 2009  
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Can't speak about a prolapsed uterus, but I've had several guppies with prolapsed intestines. All of them have recovered, and don't show any long-term problems.

Separate the fish from the others, and feed it sparingly (if at all). The danger of keeping it with other fish is the possibility that the prolapse will get nipped, causing bacterial infection. Most likely the fish is stressed, and won't want to eat anyway. You might leave the lights off too, to let the fish rest.

In my cases, the sack recedes back in the body within a few days, and the fish will start to act normally again.

Hope that helps a little, and good luck!
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
i think it might be caused by the pregnancy.. from the picture, it looks like there are no fry it doesnt look like intestines to me, it looks more like a uterus.. sorry
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
so no babies? She has to be pregnant her stomach is huge
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
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so no babies? She has to be pregnant her stomach is huge
I understand. My female guppy was always obese (hehe sounds funny). Females tend to be rounder and a bit fatter than males. Males have thin delicate bodies, while the females are robust. This is because the females have the uterus(duh!). Their organs are placed differently than the males because of this, making it look rounder AND giving room for the developing fry. IF she DID infact give birth a few days ago, IMO she would keep the males ***** and give birth 3-4 weeks later as they have been known for storing the ***** and use it 2 to 3 births over and over. however, the gravid spot doesnt always work. Check to see if you can find maybe a pink spot. My female once had a pink spot instead of dark, and she ended up not having birth due to stress. If they get scared or stressed, they will hold the babies untill the the location is safe and stress free. They sometimes (if put in lots of stress) suck up the babies. I dont remember what it was called, but the babies just desintigrate and disappear inside of her. Also, if you feel your female is pregnant and you noticed a change in her body shape, she could be pregnant. You will know for sure after a while. how long have you thought she's been pregnant?
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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I understand. My female guppy was always obese (hehe sounds funny). Females tend to be rounder and a bit fatter than males. Males have thin delicate bodies, while the females are robust. This is because the females have the uterus(duh!). Their organs are placed differently than the males because of this, making it look rounder AND giving room for the developing fry. IF she DID infact give birth a few days ago, IMO she would keep the males ***** and give birth 3-4 weeks later as they have been known for storing the ***** and use it 2 to 3 births over and over. however, the gravid spot doesnt always work. Check to see if you can find maybe a pink spot. My female once had a pink spot instead of dark, and she ended up not having birth due to stress. If they get scared or stressed, they will hold the babies untill the the location is safe and stress free. They sometimes (if put in lots of stress) suck up the babies. I dont remember what it was called, but the babies just desintigrate and disappear inside of her. Also, if you feel your female is pregnant and you noticed a change in her body shape, she could be pregnant. You will know for sure after a while. how long have you thought she's been pregnant?
She has to be pregnant her stomach is twice the size of normal..... I think she has been pregnant for about 27-29 days
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Old July 26th, 2009  
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Thanks Tony. I didn't know that the fems could have such pretty tails.

Good luck Matt, I hope she recovers like Ray suggests.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
One more question... can she give birth with that?
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Hello Matt. Hate to see that your fish is ill. The only thing that I know of that can be done is to let mother nature take her course. I don't know if she'll still give birth or not. Best of luck for a full recovery.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
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One more question... can she give birth with that?
probably not since the thing is blocking the way out. She can hold the fry tho. NOt sure how long, but she can.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
UPDATE: she seems to be getting bigger by the hour..... is their any way I could do some sort of C-section thing because she is not looking good and I dont want to lose her and the babies
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Old July 26th, 2009  
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Oh gosh, Matt. Honestly, I've never heard of anyone going that. I imagine the risk of infection and the stress would be very high. Wouldn't have any idea how you would close her should she survive.
It's not something I would attempt.

I'm so sorry.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Oh gosh, Matt. Honestly, I've never heard of anyone going that. I imagine the risk of infection and the stress would be very high. Wouldn't have any idea how you would close her should she survive.
It's not something I would attempt.

I'm so sorry.
Well I dont know what to do....... she is getting huge and the babies are going to keep growing and growing untill they the mother and babies die
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Im sorry matt. If she starts looking tired or lethargic she's probably getting weaker. its hard when you are losing fish. You've tried your best. I dont think a C-sestion would be appropriate either. I would just let her rest and see if she can get through this.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
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Im sorry matt. If she starts looking tired or lethargic she's probably getting weaker. its hard when you are losing fish. You've tried your best. I dont think a C-sestion would be appropriate either. I would just let her rest and see if she can get through this.
She is very weak...... she has not moved in a while......... she is a very big female...2-3 inches with a huge tail...... my first fish ever..... I think she has a lot of babies in their to many and it is pushing it out
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Old July 26th, 2009  
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She is very weak...... she has not moved in a while......... she is a very big female...2-3 inches with a huge tail...... my first fish ever..... I think she has a lot of babies in their to many and it is pushing it out
oh no
i would just let her stay there and see how she does on her own.Does she look like she has a gravid spot yet?
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
she has a huge gravid spot
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
can you take a pic?
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
here is a pic.
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
oh matt im sorry. She seems to be getting bigger like u said. I dont know what to tell you. I would just let her be. I would stay near her so she knows she isnt alone
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Ok will do
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
I remember having a guppy do that on me. She didn't survive though, her uterus ruptured. I sure do hope yours pulls through, it's not a pretty sight and its even tougher when you lose them. Get well soon, She-Guppy!
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Old July 26th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Im so sorry Matt This is such a sad situation. I do understand that perhaps if something must be done, then I would quickly add 1 tablespoon of Epsom salt to 5 gallons of water. This may help her pass the fry ( although I doubt that they are alive at this point) Please do not do a type of c-section, the fry cannot be saved like that and you will lose your fish.. make sure your water is perfectly clean and aerated.. Im so sorry you have to go through this ..
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